Don's LED FAQ

Most basic general questions are handled in Craig Johnson's LED FAQ, located at http://ledmuseum.home.att.net/reserved.htm.

Info on using and determining dropping resistors is in my LEDs 101 File. That file also explains why it is usually not good to connect an LED directly to a fixed voltage source.

Now for the other frequently asked questions:

Where do I get blue or white LEDs with a voltage drop less than 3 volts?
How do LED flashlights work with just one battery?
How do LED keychain flashlights get away with no dropping resistor?
Where do I get infrared LEDs with oddball wavelengths such as in the 700's of nm?
Where/how do I get LED lights for motor vehicles?
Where do I buy XXXX?
I was sent here to look for goodies not mentioned above!

Where do I get blue or white LEDs with a voltage drop less than 3 volts?

This one is not easy. Low voltage figures in some Hosfelt Electronics catalogs are typos - those LEDs drop generally 3.3 to 3.6 volts at a usual amount of current.

More likely your solution will be using a boost converter.

An LED flashlight bulb with a boost converter built in to utilize 3 volts is described in Craig Johnson's Starlite Flashlight and Night Pearl Flashlight Bulb Page.
UPDATE 9/23/2001 - Craig Johnson added a Night Pearl Bulb Page. There are 1.5V and 3V versions.

One line of blue LEDs with low voltage drops at "usual" currents around 20 mA is the Luxeon series by Lumileds. These have large dice and are designed to run at really high currents up to 350 mA. At 20 mA, a blue sample that I managed to get into my hands had a voltage drop slightly over 2.8 volts and efficiency was good. But I do not expect these to be as useful as boost converters for 2-cell flashlights. Do not expect these to be cheap!

Info:

Lumileds home page, http://www.lumileds.com
Lumileds' separate home page for their Luxeon series, http://www.luxeon.com

Full production will start any month now, sometime in the summer of 2001. Purchasing them will normally be from their distributors.

How do LED flashlights work with just one battery?

They use boost converters. There are many ways to do this.

LED flashlight "bulbs" with boost converters built in are available - check out Craig Johnson's Night Pearl Bulb Page.

One old traditional way of powering LEDs from a single 1.5 volt cell was to use National Semiconductor's LM3909 LED flasher IC. One can pulse the LED fast enough to appear continuously on, or one can add a diode and a filter capacitor. However, the LM3909 is generally not the best way and will not boost 1.5 volts to a voltage that will power blue, white, or non-yellowish green LEDs. Adding a diode and a filter capacitor is recommended if you use this to boost 3 volts for blue, white or non-yellowish green LEDs, since those LEDs are generally more efficient with steady current than with pulsed current.
Another IC that looks better for this is the Texas Instruments TPS61010DGS.

Where do I get infrared LEDs with oddball wavelengths in the 700's of nm?

They do exist and someone has to sell them. One supplier is Roithner Lasertechnik, http://www.roithner-laser.com.
Roithner Laser is a supplier of oddball, especially higher power LEDs as well as some lasers.

Craig Johnsom reviews some of these at http://ledmuseum.home.att.net/ledir.htm

Another supplier of oddball wavelength IR LEDs is Plasma Ireland, http://www.plasma-ireland.com. They have a whole line of IR LEDs including 735, 750, 810, 850, 870, 890, 910, 940, 1300 and 1450 nm.

Other suppliers wil be added here when I find out about them.

How do LED keychain flashlights get away with no dropping resistor?

The main reason is that the "coin" cells these flashlights use have enough internal resistance to limit the current to a safe or nearly-safe value.
And most of the time the battery's internal resistance usually rises after a few seconds during use, then recovers after giving the battery a break - this will usually keep the LED from overheating. Also the battery can heatsink the LED, permitting operation with current a little above the LED's rated limit.

I have seen some units where the current reached levels that I would call adventurous - especially in Photon models with blue, green or white LEDs. However, you need really heavy use with constantly fresh batteries to damage the LEDs - and any significant LED damage if such currents are sustained will probably take hundreds or thousands of operating hours. I consider it a safe bet that few users of these lights will log 500 hours of use with highly fresh batteries in a lifetime. Normally, the battery can only provide current in excess of the LED's maximum rating for a few minutes. Also, it is not easy to notice if the LED deteriorates to even half its original performance. But if you do notice any fading, chances are something like 99 percent that it will be due to the condition of the battery rather than the condition of the LED.

Where/how do I get LED lights for motor vehicles?

Truck and bus lights are available from Dialight's Transportation Products. More likely, from a Dialight distributor.

Lights for cars, especially other than center high-mount brake lights, are more customized and specialized. Availability is mainly as a replacement part for a specific car, all too often at a very high price through a dealer for that make of car. If the light is not at an edge or a corner of the vehicle, you may get away with a truck light but I do not guarantee this and I discourage replacing any light unit on your vehicle with something else unless it is approved by DOT (in the USA that is, or whatever authority has jurisdiction in your country) and the manufacturer intended it to be used in your vehicle.
Replacing an automotive incandescent bulb with an LED "bulb" of the same base style and of the appropriate color will appear to work, but light output will fall short of requirements. Expect hype in claims of light output from LED "bulbs" that fit where incandescent bulbs normally go. In addition, the light distribution pattern will be different and even in the highly unlikely event you have adequate total light output the amount of light output into some directions will almost certainly not be in the allowable range.
Homebrewing a vehicle light requires knowing the lower limit and upper limit for amount of light into something like 40 different directions so I do not recomend this.

Where do I buy XXXX?

Try these links:

My LED Top Page, http://www.misty.com/~don/ledx.html for links to manufacturers and suppliers.

Craig Johnson's Where To Buy Page, http://ledmuseum.home.att.net.

My Bright/Efficient LED Page, http://www.misty.com/~don/led.html has a bit of supplier info.

My Page on Nichia, http://www.misty.com/~don/nichia.html has a bit of supplier info, including surplus suppliers and a bit of info on non-Nichia products similar to some Nichia ones.

Craig Johnson's "Punishment Zone" flashlight review page, http://ledmuseum.home.att.net/zone.htm, mentions more LED flashlights than perhaps even he could remember! Plus a few items other than just flashlights.

I was sent here to look for goodies not mentioned above!

If you got to this point as a result of following a Usenet posting or other referral and did not find your answer by now nor anywhere above in this web page nor in pages linked therefrom:

First, explore My LED Top Page, http://www.misty.com/ledx.html and all links therefrom even if it takes several hours.

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