Comments on low-noise
antenna
design in Sept '95 QST
The antenna reduces line noise very
well. (John S. Hill)
The loop is *very* effective on TV and other noises. (Guy
Atkins)
Fairly narrow bandwidth; you'll have to tune it remotely for
tropical DX. (Steve Byan)
Why tune a receiving antenna? (W8JI, Tom)
Best against strong local QRN, otherwise may perform poorer
than a regular antenna. (Bill Turner)
From:
John S. Hill (nj0m@primenet.com)
Date: Sept 5, 1995
Original source: Usenet's rec.radio.amateur.antenna
I built one
with only 17ft on a side and boy does it work as advertised where
line noise reduction is concerned. I live in an old neighborhood
in the city. My 3/8 wave vertical receives line noise very well.
Unfortunately, the loop doesn't do well with atmospheric noise,
so it'll be a while before I can assess how it does with weak
DX signals. Listening to stateside signals, my line noise on the
vertical was 10 over S-9 and only s5 on the loop. Signals from
both coasts were down about 15db on the loop, so the reduction
in line noise was greater than the reduction of desired signals.
Can hardly wait for the winter to arrive.
From:
Guy Atkins (gatkins@gatkins.seanet.com)
Date: Sept 10, 1995
Original source: Usenet's rec.radio.amateur.antenna
I've built
this antenna as described by the authors. The only differences
are that I changed the tranformer ratio to match the ladderline
to some 75-ohm Belden cable I had on hand, and I also resonated
the (25 ft. square) loop to 3.3 MHz, which is in the middle of
the 90 meterband of interest to me for foreign broadcast.
After using the antenna for 4-5 days against my 350 ft. long terminated,
matched mini-Beverage and my Carolina Beam, I'm impressed with
this loop. It is *very* effective on TV horiz. oscillator noise,
the occasional powerline RFI I get here, and other local noises
here. Like the articles stated, there are some noises that the
loop seems to have no effect on. However, I find than S/N ratio
is usually improved 3 to 4 S-units or more (after signal levels
are equalized). A good, low-noise preamplifier is helpful with
this antenna.
Although my version of this loop is resonated for 90 meters, it
has been helpful on the 75 meterband foreign broadcasters, too,
such as RRI Pontianak on 3976.7 kHz (Indonesia). On all other
bands and frequencies the signal levels are WAY down, and antenna
performs poorly.
It was definitely worth the effort to construct this noise-reducing
loop! I'd like to try another one for the 60 meterband, or maybe
modify my current one for switchable 90/60 meterband use, similar
to the 160/80 meter version described by the QST author.
From:
Steve Byan (steve@hi.com)
Date: Sept 14, 1995
Original source: Usenet's rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Guy Atkins
wrote:
The low-noise horizontal loops described in two articles in
the September QST sounds very promising for improving S/N on the
lower bands.
The theory sounds good. I plan to try something along those lines
this winter. However, note that the antenna is a tuned loop with
a fairly narrow bandwidth. For tropical band DX use, you'll have
to tune it remotely, perhaps using varactor diodes.
Note that a small loop antenna, such as the design in Fine Tuning's
"Proceedings" a few years back, has the same noise-reducing antenna
pattern when mounted horizontally. Its disadvantage is a much
lower signal strength, hence the need for the high-gain low noise
loop preamp. I don't know if the preamp design in the Proceedings
has a low enough noise figure for the small loop to be competitive
with the QST design with respect to weak DX.
From:
W8JI, Tom (w8jitom@aol.com)
Date: Sept 14, 1995
Original source: Usenet's rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Note
that a small loop antenna, such as the design in Fine Tuning's
"Proceedings" a few years back, has the same noise-reducing antenna
pattern when mounted horizontally. Its disadvantage is a much
lower signal strength, hence the need for the high-gain low noise
loop preamp. I don't know if the preamp design in the Proceedings
has a low enough noise figure for the small loop to be competitive
with the QST design with respect to weak DX.
I had poor sucess with this in the past. The horizontal small
loop close to the ground lost so much sensitivity it was useless
with the best pre-amp. But I'm sure the sensitivity would be better
over very poor soil.
Remember a receiving antenna really doesn't need to be tuned.
You can make up for the lack of efficiency with a pre-amp at the
antenna. I see no reason why the antenna couldn't cover octaves
of BW. It's done all the time with receiving loop arrays.
From:
wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner)
Date: Sept 16, 1995
Original source: Usenet's rec.radio.amateur.antenna
My K6STI
antenna has been up for about a week now, and here are a few comments
on it's functioning:
1. For comparison, my regular antenna is a full size 1/4 wave
ground-mounted vertical with 25 1/4 wave (almost) radials, remotely
tunable, max SWR = 1.3:1.
2. I installed the K6STI antenna at a height of 10 feet. It is
12 feet on a side and square +/- about one inch. Fed with 450
ohm transmitting type open wire line as shown in the article.
3. It really does reduce locally-generated QRN, just as claimed
in the article (September QST).
4. At a height of 10 feet, used on 80 meters, it is NOT a DX antenna
-- low angle signals are weak, as one would expect. No magic here.
5. No preamp was needed. Plenty of output when resonated. I'm
in a typical suburban locale (Seattle), so a really quiet location
might benefit from one.
6. Because of the smaller size, I needed more resonating capacitance
than the example in the article -- about 150 pf.
7. Bandwidth is about the same as in the article -- the +/- 3db
points are about 50 kHz apart. (Rough estimate).
Conclusions: It works as the author described,
but it's best use is where a strong local QRN situation exists.
If there is no QRN, it has no advantage over the regular antenna,
and in fact is actually poorer. Keep in mind this applies only
to my installation. If you install it higher or size it differently,
YMMV. Again, it's only been up a week, so evaluation will continue.
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