Helmut Wabnig at wabi@mail.carinthia.co.at says...
>
>> I was thinking of taking a glass tube, and stacking lots of
>> glass-body resistors in series to drop the voltage down to
>> a managable level.  Would this work?  ...
>
> That is exactly right. You have the correct plan already.
> Go, make it.
> The scope input has a certain resistance, eg 10 Megohms.
> Parallel is a capacitance, several picos.
> Must be taken into the calculations, the capacitance
> will considerably reduce bandwith.
>
> Scope probe schematic:
>
>
>                       
>                       !------------------<scope input       
                
>                       !
>                       !
> <-------------RES1-----------RES2---------!!ground
>           !        !     !        !
>           !--CAP1--!     !--CAP2--!
>
> tau1=R1*C1 must be equal to tau2=R2*C2,
> then the frequency response is correct and you
> don't waste bandwith.
>
> where R2 and C2 are the added values of the 
> scope input and the probe.

This is classic low-voltage probe architecture and it doesn't 
work for HV scope probes, unless 1) you're willing to have an 
overly high capacitive loading, or 2) you don't care about 
mid-frequency or pulse-shape response accuracy.  This is 
because the RES1 value will be very high, 100M or more likely 
1000M ohms, and physically long and large.  So the real 
circuit is like:

          ________ CAP1 __________
         |                        |
  <------- R -*- E -*- S -*- 1 ------ etc
              |     |     |
              Cs    Cs    Cs
              |     |     |
             gnd   gnd   gnd

Because the RES1 is so high, the probe becomes a good antenna, 
and a shield is mandantory.  Therefore the Cs "stray" 
capacitance is higher than you might think.  

I think you see the problem.  

One solution is to make C1 very large, but it's just a matter 
of specs - if you want 1% performance over the whole range, C1 
is a severe load.  There is a good overall solution, which I 
think is fairly clever (after thinking of it, I discovered the 
experts had beat me to it!); see my earlier posting in this 
thread.

-- 
Winfield Hill      hill@rowland.org
Rowland Institute for Science
Cambridge, MA 02142


Date: Mon, 07 Oct 96 17:16:57 EST

Original Subject: Re: Can I build a HV probe?


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