=============================================================================== Message 1 DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 14:56 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To : ALL Subject: Message Base Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Folks! Well, major lightning storm yesterday and when I got home, found several errors indicating the system had gone down and come back up, now the message base slipped away.....again, I got a copy of it but cannot recover... Tomorrow, WEDNESDAY, I will shut down the system and transfer all the KeelyNet files onto the new computer, so that should take some doing. Sorry for the inconvenience but I have been putting it off. I note some of the New Energy Conference folks have called and gotten the error, embarassing as it is, I cannot help it at this time, so stay with us, after all, we have been online for almost 4 years now with an absolute minimum of downtime.... In fact, in the past, when we have had downtime, it has usually been my fault for screwing with setup parameters....however, in this case, it is a decaying hard drive.. Well, it CAN be fixed and as Dennis Weaver said in his presentation to the New Sciences group.... "There are those who simply "play around" and then there are those who show true commitment...." "To give you a better understanding of what I mean by TRUE COMMITMENT, I want you to imagine a plate of ham and eggs..." "Now the chicken is just playing around, but the pig, he is showing true commitment!" That's us at this time, so it is running OK now, except for the probability that your major worldshaking messages of import might go off into a virtual state existence (can we say hyperspace?) so kind of hold off on the major data....and shout back Thursday or this weekend when the new system will be alive and well....thanks so much for your patience and understanding of these little "life challenges"..>>> Jerry ---------------------------------------- There has been a Reply to this message, use [+] to Read the most recent. Msg # 1 [1..6213] [R]eply, [N]onStop [+]See Reply, [Q]uit, [ENTER] for Next Message ? n =============================================================================== Message 2 DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 15:22 From : DAVID RAMOS To : ALL Subject: Einstin's Unified Field Theory Folder : A, "Public Mail" Greetings folks, I have been reading about the Philadelphia Experiment and keep running into Einstin's Unified Field Theory that was presumably completed around 1920-1025 but then recinded by Einstein. The book I am reading said something about ole Al realizing the ramifications of his theory and then said it was all wrong. Any explanations of the theory would be appreciated. Any bibliography on the subject would be great too!...Happy searching.... =============================================================================== Message 5 DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 18:43 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : DAVID RAMOS Subject: (R) Einstin's Unified Field Theory Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi David! I believe there is a company that actually sells what is claimed to be a copy of this mysterious Unified Theory. We were told that he actually DID finish one, then pulled back all known copies because he realized what it could lead to when integrated with Man's warlike attributes.....at the momemt I can't remember WHO sells this, possibly Rex Research....if I find out wil append or rewrite a message with the details.....>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 6 DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 18:46 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MARK MANSFIELD Subject: (R) Notes and Denver Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mark! Met a fellow (a strange one at that) who drew a diagram of the Sweet machine and said THAT was the internal construction...I will do a .GIF and place here for everyone to study or implement. Sweet is also said to "condition" the magnets...some say by using heat from a propane torch, aimed at the middle of each bar magnet. I don't understand how this can condition anything because if the material of the magnet reaches or exceeds the Curie temperature, the magnet loses its field while in that state.....now on cooling, the field will return. The indication is that such a cooling causes the magnetic domains to reach a point which makes them very sensitive to outside magnetic "tickler" fields as seen in the Sweet device...anyway, will have a paper hopefully this weekend....have fun...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 7 DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 18:59 From : ROBERT BONNER -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: (R) Einstin's Unified Field Theory Folder : A, "Public Mail" I don't know why, but I've seemed to believe that Einstein DID finish his UFT. And that it WAS withdrawn because of what man would use it for. This has been a probable possibility for me for years. Not hard to see it's possibility I suppose. Jerry, did I miss this months meeting? Darnit, I hope not! I've finally got a job..(and I've actually been getting(purchasing) info!) but besides that, I've been really busy. Works a hassle, but thats work, right? So whats been up with you? Do you remember me? The motorcycle dude in a blue/white leather outfit? I cannot let you forget! Robert Boner =============================================================================== Message 8 DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 20:57 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : ROBERT BONNER Subject: (R) Einstin's Unified Field Theory Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Robert! Yes, I remember you, the space alien....I have seen the Einstein manuscript listed somewhere for about $25...or at least it is PURPORTED to be his completed manuscript that was withdrawn almost immediately after publication. I guess I better get a copy of it someday while it is still available. The next meeting will be on the 2nd Thursday of May...don't know the actual date right at this moment, but it is easy to remember with the 2nd....will post on the system and mail out flyers...I had to go in for an operation, so missed sending out the mailers for the April meeting...and only managed to get in touch with a few folks, despite no mailers, we had about 35 people and a neat lady from Canada with a very interesting machine which we checked out after the meeting... Well, time to go to work, so will catch you later...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 9 DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 21:01 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To : ALL Subject: New Joe Newman Video Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Folks! In the newest Extraordinary Science magazine, there is a small notice on the last page saying that Joe Newman (Gyroscopic Theory of energy generation) is back... It says he gave a public demonstration in Washington, DC on March 28 of this year. I called him Monday afternoon and he said the demonstration went well and that they made a video of it if anyone wants a copy... Download the CONTACT1.ZIP file which gives his mailing address and send $20.00 with a note saying you want the video of the March 28th demo and he will mail it to you. He has improved his machine but still has not managed to get a patent. As to his master book which gives entire details of his theory of operation, it used to sell for $50.00 but they have long since sold out. Joe says they are currently being reprinted and will sell for $59.95 because the book is NOW OVER 500 pages in length...so will let you know when it becomes available. If you don't know about Joe Newman, there are at least 2 files here in the Energy section called Newman1, Newman2, (I think), do a browse and get the names correct, and that will give you and idea of what he is about and a very brief history....have fun...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 10 DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 21:39 From : BOB ALDRICH To : ALL Subject: Bearden's Latest Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi All, A friend just recently spoke to Tom Bearden and he said that all former files are obsolete! Well, not obsolete, but he's coming out with a new way to release the energy using GAS, not doped wire. Something which people will be able to come up with more readily.. Just thought I'd leak this bit of info.. Don't count on rumours though! Bob Aldrich =============================================================================== Message 11 DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 23:39 From : PHIL LIVA To : ALL Subject: Tesla BBS Folder : A, "Public Mail" Does anyone know whats happening at Tesla BBS. I trie calling tonight quite a few times, and get NO CARRIER. Just curious. =============================================================================== Message 17 DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 02:22 From : DON KIRCHER -- RECEIVED -- To : BRYANT STAVELY Subject: (R) Another Corner to talk in Folder : A, "Public Mail" Why Clarks board, of course! It is the only one of quality I have found with conspiracy echos. Compuserve Politics forum provides many good contacts. Don Allen, among others is reachable at Databank or any board that has the FIDONET UFO echo...even if it is off topic. Don is the moderator and has been known to (ahem) be led astray on occasion.. I've tried to find out where he hangs out otherwise, to no avail. The BEST bet looks to be the internet link at Delphi. That could be cheap and very productive. Did you get the Delphi file I uploaded to Jerry for you?? If he still has it I expect that it will be hand carried to the next Jo Jo's meeting or something. It sure won't be placed on KEELYNET. later dlk =============================================================================== Message 21 DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 10:31 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : BOB ALDRICH Subject: (R) Bearden's Latest Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Bob! Interesting comment and one that a friend of ours also proposed by the use of hydrogen gas under variable pressures...seems this is thought to be a more or less perfect "DSC" since you can vary the pressure and therefore the conductivity...will probably call Tom sometime in the near future....thanks for the note...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 22 DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 10:32 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : PHIL LIVA Subject: (R) Tesla BBS Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Phil! Yes, I was with Toby this past weekend and he says they have been having some equipment problems...NOT TO WORRY! Tobe says the problem is being resolved and they will be back online shortly..you know the area they are in is HIGHLY CONDUCIVE to line noise but this is a hardware problem....give them a few more days...if I speak with Toby in the near future, will find out the status (either by direct voice or calling the BBS) and leave it posted here in a note...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 23 DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 10:34 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : DAN DAVIDSON Subject: (R) Comment Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Dan! GEEZ, had a great time at the conference, you would have loved it, and I now think I have the final correlations to resolve the three points which I consider to be my destiny...i.e. 1) Anti-Gravity, 2) Free Energy, and 3) Disease Control and Age Reversal...had lots of really great fellows stating that my ideas (mix of Keely, Schauberger, Russell, Moray, Rawls/Davis and others are correct) which I found quite refreshing....will clue you in at a later time, I am going to get off my butt and start building...will call you this weekend for a chat....>>> Jerry ...BUT FIRST I HAVE TO HEAL THE BABY - KEELYNET HAS A SLIGHT CASE OF ...ALZHEIMER'S WHICH I HAVE TEMPORARILY PATCHED, BUT BASED ON THE LAW ...OF SYNCHRONICITY, IT IS DESTINED TO REPEAT, SO TONITE IS THE MAJOR ...TRANSFER TO THE 130MB SYSTEM...a pain, but way overdue since I have ...basically had it ready for a few months, just did not like the idea ...of getting away from this particular version of Wildcat since it is ...simple, clean and quick...I don't give a hoot for the bells and ...whistles or need to know all the details of who our users are, that's ...their business and if they want me to know, they will say so.. ...will call this weekend...bye...>>> JWD =============================================================================== Message 24 DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 10:39 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : ROD FREDLUND Subject: (R) Howdy! Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Rod! Thanks for the comments and encouragement, you know, I don't remember just what that reference was in regard (the solid state F/E device) but there is one that comes to mind SWEET as listed in multiple files here....the conference was very well done and I had a great time and it will take months to digest the info...and yes, there will be MULTIPLE files on KeelyNet and transferred to our Associate boards....Some wild stuff, some proveable, some speculative and some totally far out....need to get busy for the transfer tonite, so I will leave it at that...have FUN...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 25 DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 12:41 From : MIKE VANHOOSER -- RECEIVED -- To : DON KIRCHER Subject: (R) Another Corner to talk in Folder : A, "Public Mail" What boards are you talking about? I haven't been able to keep up with the recent crashes, so have lost the train of thought. I am very interested in other boards where politics/conspiracy/etc. is the topic du jour. I am still interested in putting up a board in the next month after I finish moving, and I appreciate the offers of assistance and will probably be taking them up. If a good board exists with these discussions I will be supportive of it, but if not I am ready to put one up. Let me know if anyone knows about other boards, I am very interested. Compuserve is a little out of my range, but I may be able to participate in others which are not to costly. Let me know what's out there. Thanks. =============================================================================== Message 28 DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 22:10 From : LEE JONES To : ALL Subject: Re: Upload of HAP30.ZIP Folder : A, "Public Mail" Check this one out guys, HAP30.ZIP...it is super for 486 CPU's!!! It is written small enough to run from the cache...ultra fast and produces the tightest archives yet..comaprison is included. =============================================================================== Message 30 DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 23:07 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : GUY RESH Subject: (R) Comment Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Guy! That McKie fellow was scheduled as the last speaker for Sunday at the conference but he did not show up....so someone else spoke in his place....there was no literature on the thing...I think the conf. proceedings might have his presentation, if so, I will copy and send to you, it should have addresses and phone numbers and more detail... I will look it up...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 31 DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 23:09 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : ROBERT BONNER Subject: (R) Einstin's Unified Field Theory Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Robert! It was an Amiga computer that had a very nice speaker system and a custom program for sampling voice....the program included specturm analysis and dual tone generation. The idea was that as each person spoke, their voice carried a range of frequencies that were comprised of the harmonics of various elements. By analysing the voice signature, they could determine what elements were missing and the machine could then generate the correct harmonic for that specific element, broadcast it through the speaker and "evoke" the manifestation of that element into the body. The interesting thing was that after the process was carried out, the voice signature changed to reflect the "presence" of what was claimed to now be the element that was previously missing....the part that threw us was they used Walter Russells mated pairs to ascertain the frequencies to be generated...this resulted in the dual tones which were projected through the speaker simultaneously by taking advantage of the multiple "voices" possible in better quality musical circuits. Anyway, the lady will be returning in the next few months and we hope to gather some more info...it seems that you can generate PATTERNS that consist of RATIOS of one frequency to another....and this therefore makes the use of FREQUENCIES per se unimportant....it is the PATTERN, not the FREQUENCY that contains the geometry to "work the magic"...THIS IS WHAT WE SEEM TO HAVE STUMBLED ON IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS and therefore, it was further correlation for us.....note that once the correct pattern has been established, you get an ENHANCED EFFECT at the proper frequency, but it seems to work at ANY frequency...this ties in to magic squares and the geometry of energy projection....anyway, it was quite fascinating and we are looking into it further...>>> Jerry ...one further correlation, at a conference several years ago, a fellow showed up from Alaska. He had a box that contained a very bright light and a disk with several types of jewels. He claimed that everyone had a "bank account" of COLORS within their system...each person had RED, GREEN, BLUE, etc...now you could envision this as cups of paint...when you were sick or stressed out or otherwise messed up, one or more of these cups of paint would drain away....it could be detected by the person looking into this box at the light that came from each of these gemstones as it was rotated around the disk. As you looked into it, he would give you about a minute for each color and ask you what color you saw, several folks COULD NOT SEE CERTAIN COLORS....this indicated that their cup of paint of that particular color was empty. The interesting thing was those folks who COULD NOT SEE A CERTAIN COLOR(S), had some kind of illness or other problem! How to CORRECT? Once the "diagnosis" showed which color(s) were missing, the fellow knew which ones to "evoke", so he had the person stare into the machine while he set it for the jewel that emitted the color that the person missed. As the person looked into the machine for several minutes, gradually they WOULD BEGIN TO SEE THE COLOR that was previously invisible!!! And their physical illness or problem would abate, diminish or simply GO AWAY!! I met a man eariler in the conference who was limping, walking slow and was a physical wreck...we had talked for a few minutes and I really felt sorry for the old guy, he was just some oldtimer who had heard of the conference and came off the farm to see if anyone could help him. Well, he went to this fellows room and took the test to see what colors he was missing (I believe it was three in his case)...I saw the fellow before the conference ended and he was bouncing around, walking with NO PROBLEMS, no sluggishness and his eyes were simply glowing...since I had talked with him earlier, I asked him what the hell happened that he was so much improved...and he said he had done the jewel color machine and gave me a play by play description of the diagnosis and treatment and the resulting improvement. Now this fellow could have been a shill, but I think not because he just seemed like any old farm boy and I was quite intrigued because of his obvious improvement, yes, I know psychomatic influence might be a cause, but you should have seen him bouncing around, it was very impressive, and for me the bottom line is, DOES IT WORK? Well, the old man seemed so much improved that FOR THAT DAY, it surely worked. The point of this long winded "correlation" is that the man with the machine said that JEWELS (natural, not man-made) when excited by a sufficiently bright light, emitted healing frequencies that the body naturally resonated to and freely absorbed....this in turned tied in to the work of Dinshah Ghadiali, now being accepted (through high intensity lasers) as PHOTOTHERAPY. I have studied the work of Ghadiali for years but had never seen the use of natural crystals for the generation of the correct frequencies, so for me, that was another excellent correlation. Anyway, since all frequencies can be "accessed" through octave division, multiplication or harmonics, one can easily see how by dividing light frequencies by successive divisions of 2, you can eventually reach sonic frequencies. When such frequencies are sufficiently pure (with sufficient decimal point precision, hers were 4 decimal points...i.e, 18.2783) and projected with a SUSTAINED signal, then the PHONON interference could indeed create or evoke from WITHIN THE BODY, the missing components.. Another interesting line of thought on this subject is that of Crile, Kervran and Burr with the mitochondria being the energy generating systems of the cells....this is ABSOLUTELY A MYSTERY to modern science, and these fellows, Kervran in particular believe it to be miniature atomic furnaces that produce NATURAL LOW LEVEL ATOMIC FISSIONS for the express purpose of TRANSMUTATION and I believe MANIFESTATION when needed. So, possibly these light and or sound frequencies access these furnaces and bias them in such a way (note with sustained frequencies only) to produce the missing element... Whew, yep, it is long but an interesting train of incoming correlations. Hope this explains or gives an answer to your one line query regarding the "machine"...bye...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 32 DATE/TIME: 04/22/93 01:04 From : MICHAEL THEROUX To : ALL Subject: New BBS! Folder : A, "Public Mail" If your interest lies in alternative science or just fringe info in general, check out the largest information service in Northern California. It's called AbulafiA -- Infotech Network (707)923-4897, and after 9PM PST node 2 @ (707)923-4186. 1Gig on line with a complete section devoted to "Borderland Sciences". The latest articles on free energy, international network debate areas, Borderlands latest catalog and journal back issues, and more. ÄÄÍÍ[AbulafiA]ÍÍÄÄ....14,400bps, the Infotech Network. =============================================================================== Message 33 DATE/TIME: 04/22/93 08:05 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To : ALL Subject: Levitation Machine? Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Folks! On the last day of the New Energy Conference, I was talking with several people in the hall awaiting the next presentation. This was about 10:45 AM Sunday morning....a fellow named John Miranda tapped me on the shoulder and asked if we could talk in private. We did and he asked if I would be interested in seeing a tape that showed a practical levitation system....well of course, I could not pass that up. With John was a Professor Tica from New York.....Tica had been brought to America by Werner Von Braun and currently ran an inventors assistance company. They showed me about 3 minutes of tape which was quite fascinating. Prof. Tica said the inventor lived in Fort Worth, TEXAS and wanted anonymity until all the patents were secured. I asked John what I could do to help them and he said they needed some of the conference organizers as well as some of the speakers to view the tape to see what they thought of it. After writing up a description of the process, I gave it to Toby Grotz, who had it announced at the Banquet with Dennis Weaver. The video was shown and most of the speakers and some of the organizers showed up (about 50 folks) to view the video, the small room was packed. The essence of the machine is quite simple : Two small motors (identical size and speed) that looked like those used on a sewing machine were used to drive two aluminum hubs. The motors had a pulley connected to a belt that was in turn connected to a pulley to spin each of the aluminum hubs independent of each other. The motors ran at 1800 RPM and the aluminum hubs were separated by a gap of about 1/4". The aluminum hubs spun opposite each other (the left hub spun CCW, the right hub spun CW). When a small magnet (which we at first were told was NON-magnetic) was placed between the hubs, it levitated about 1" from the top of the diamagnetic (non-magnetic) spinning aluminum hubs. This first magnet was about the size of your little finger. The second demonstration was of a magnet that was about 1" in diameter and about 4" in length. It floated about 4" above the spinning hubs. The third demonstration showed a cylinder sitting on a table with the flat end down. On top of this cylinder was an aluminum plate that was about 1/4 to 1/2" thick. I could not ascertain the diameter. There were also 3 or 4 upright fingers shaped like upside down L's. Prof. Tica said these fingers kept the aluminum from floating off the cylinder and crashing into the floor. When the machine was turned on the aluminum plate levitated up to the fingers and stayed suspended. To disprove the effect being air currents or electrostatics, a piece of paper was moved between the levitating body and the paper was NOT blown away NOR did it move in any way. Dr. Panos Pappas explained it away as eddy currents and later asked me if he got an "A" for his rapidity of explaining the effect, I gave an "A+"..... There was quite a bit of discussion regarding the phenonmenon and a flyer which Prof. Tica had made up indicates the inventor thinks this is eddy currents that are created by the magnetic levitated body INTO the aluminum hubs which in turn create a magnetic thrust that supports the body. In detailed discussion with Paramahansa Tewari on his machine, John Keely, other subjects and this particular levitation experiment, he thought it might be entrained air that created a "shell" that supported the weight....this was in private discussion before he saw the video tape. Prof. Tica indicated that there were unsubstantiated reports that this machine could also levitate plastic, wood and other non-ferrous objects. If this were true, then we might just possibly have an Aether Vortex mechanism that takes advantage of the neutral center of sufficiently dense masses to entrain the Aether and project a "reverse gravity" current that would in turn impact the neutral center of other masses. If this was so, then by turning the device upside down, it might demonstrate reduced weight or outright levitation. Tewari thinks this might also be possible PROVIDED the levitated objects are non-magnetic. Tewari did entertain the possibility and supported Prof. Tica during the presentation. Tewari also provided the interesting piece of information that BAUXITE (from which aluminum is extracted) is found with highest abundance at the equator of the planet. If aluminum, being a diamagnetic substance, were repelled from magnetic substances during the formation of the planet, this might cause the majority of aluminum deposits to take up a position that was FURTHEST from the highest magnetic field concentration...thereby leading one to believe that a combination of magnetic fields and aluminum might indeed be a key to levitation. A FASCINATING CORRELATION! If this is so, then other planets or moons might also have the highest concentration at their equatorial regions ALSO, thus leading one to believe that construction of an aluminum disc, spinning in a magnetic field, might provide some type of field propulsion.... Well, that is the essence of the experiment and I will keep in touch with Prof. Tica and John Miranda with the hope that we can meet the inventor of this (he is only about 45 miles from me). There is a high probability that there are some anomalies with this experiment. Toby Grotz asked if anyone viewing the tape might be willing to duplicate the experiment and write up their conclusions for the next INS journal...about 5 folks volunteered to investigate the phenomenon. Norman Wootan, one of our Roundtable folks with whom I journeyed to Denver is also building the device. I will report on his results within the next week or sooner. One other point of interest, Don Kelly of the Space Energy group has been doing experiments with dropping various coils of wire, either straight, powered or in BIFILAR arrangements and notes A DEFINITE DECREASE OF GRAVITIC ATTRACTION BY 60% with the BIFILAR winding. It all comes together, eh???.........comments??....>>> Jerry ....one other point of interest, it is a known fact that high energy pulses discharged into a coil will provide high energy magnetic spikes that create JUST SUCH EDDY CURRENTS in aluminum for a repulsion effect. At our local science museum they have an metal pole about 10 feet high. At the base of this pole is an aluminum ring that loosely fits the pole diameter. At the top of the pole is a bell. At the bottom of the pole is a flat plate with a button. The circuit is basically a large capacitor which charges up from a DC supply....when the button is presse, the rapid discharge of the capacitor into the coil produces this high energy magnetic spike which repels the aluminum ring with sufficient force to strike the bell. ....one further correlation, the aluminum pie plate repulsion from the UFO case (can't remember the fellows name) which involved a phone call that mysteriously "programmed" the contactee to take a nail, hammer it into a wood plate, wrap it with wire, place an aluminum pie tin on the top of the nail, attach a battery and the pie plate shot up to the ceiling....this the contactee claims to be how UFO's fly...he could never successfully duplicate this particular experiment although he claims to have used a similar process to make a levitating machine... Just So...>>> JWD =============================================================================== Message 43 DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 09:59 From : SHAWN BUTTS To : ALL Subject: Hi There Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi there, I shawn and new to this system. I would like to hear from all of you about your views on time travel. =============================================================================== Message 46 DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 15:32 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: DIA-Magnetic Folder : A, "Public Mail" | JD> "the diamagnetic (non-magnetic) spinning aluminum hubs." | | One of us doesn't understand some thing here, not sure if | it is you or me. | | This is my understanding of Dia-Magnetic: | | A simple example of Dia-Magnetism can be demonstrated with the | element Bischmit, two magnetites, and a iron bar as show below: | | | S ========= N ---------------- S =========== N | ^ ^ ^ | Bar Magnet___| Iron Bar free to pivot Bar Magnet__| | | | A conventional ferris material like iron will line up in line | with the magnetic poles as shown above. | | | | S ========= N | S =========== N | ^ | ^ | Bar Magnet___| | Bar Magnet_| | ^ | Bischmit free to pivot | | A Dia-Magnetic mineral will line up perpendicular to the axis | of the magnetic poles. | | | | S ========= N ---------------- S =========== N | ^ ^ ^ | Bar Magnet___| Aluminum Bar free to pivot Bar Magnet__| | | Nothing should happen to the Aluminum bar, no mater what | you do to the magnets. | | Aluminum is NON-magnetic, not DIA-magnetic. | | Maybe this is why I've never got an answer when I've | asked what elements are DIA-magnetic, they thought I meant | NON-magnetic? | | I got from Rex Research a Electro Magnet plan that would work | with plastic and aluminum. I'll post the details when I come | across them (I don't expect it to be soon; just started to pack | for moving into new house). This got a bit mangled in uploading, hope you still get the idea. =============================================================================== Message 49 DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 16:51 From : MIKE VANHOOSER -- RECEIVED -- To : DON KIRCHER Subject: (R) Another Corner to talk in Folder : A, "Public Mail" Thanks, will check it out soon. Delphi sounds interesting and I would like to know more about getting in and using it. Still haven't decided about putting up a board, but is still a possibility. I'll let you know what I decide. Later, Mike =============================================================================== Message 51 DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 17:06 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: (R) DIA-Magnetic Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Bob! Got your excellent info on the ECKLIN device...thanks, it is really quite fascinating and will no doubt make some good files... As to Dia-magnetic, can't find my flipping dictionary, but when aluminum is subected to magnetic fields UNDER MOTION, I understand the induced eddy type currents create a repulsion effect, the very process which makes the aluminum ring repel from the high flux discharge as in the science center memo....lessee, there is magnetic, paramagnetic, diamagnetic and non-magnetic....I was thinking that dia meant it repulsed, perhaps it is Para instead...when I find the dictionary will append this note, but I KNOW you will look it up...woops, found my dictionary and neither term is listed...aaahhh, but in my Van Nostrand 'Cyclopedia, an indispensable little tome... ....DIAMAGNETISM - the phenomenon in which the magnetism in a substance ....OPPOSES the magnetizing force which INDUCES IT. Diamagnetism is ....considered to exist in ALL SUBSTANCES, it is MASKED by the much ....greater opposite effect due to the orientation of the magnetic atoms ....or molecules. ....PARAMAGNETISM - A physical characteristic of some matter, advantage ....of which is taken in certain instrumental systems and scientific ....apparatus. The paramagnetic qualities of oxygen, due to two ....unpaired electrons per molecule, is used as a basis for some oxygen ....analyzers. Three basic magnetic forces exist: 1) paramagnetic, ....2) ferromagnetic, and 3) diamagnetic. Ferromagnetic materials are ....much more permeable than a vacuum and thus positive, aligning with ....an applied magnetic field. Diamagnetic materials are SLIGHTLY LESS ....permeable, thus negative, aligning across the field. Para and ferro ....magnetism DIMINISH with temperature rise, whereas diamagnetism is ....essentially UNAFFECTED. ....Precession of electron orbits in atoms and molecules induced by an ....APPLIED FIELD CAUSES DIAMAGNETISM IN ALL MATTER even when ....paramagnetism DOMINATES. Unpaired electrons in atoms or molecules ....cause para and ferro magnetism. Normally, electrons of opposite ....spin pair off, NETTING ZERO MAGNETISM PER PAIR. Unbalanced spin ....moment of unpaired electrons yields both para and ferromagnetism. So, it would appear that DIAMAGNETISM is indeed a form of REPULSION when the test object is subjected to an APPLIED FIELD, whether from a permanent magnet or an energized coil. Something strange here, but I can't remember the exact paper that spoke of some really odd thing...hmmm, must be gettin' old...later...>>> Jerry ...Oh, by the way, the correct spelling is BISMUTH...it does seem to ...have some bizarre properties and some kind of repelling effect to ...gravitic flow as found by several researchers, including T.T. Brown ...can't help it, I like correct spelling....hehehehe..later...>>> JWD =============================================================================== Message 52 DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 17:24 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MARK MANSFIELD Subject: (R) Notes Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mark! EXCELLENT, YOU FINGERED IT OUT on your own....very good...You must therefore be aware of ELECTRETS and how they can also be "tuned" with signatured electrostatic patterns??? Remarkable possibilities in this.... Well, I stumbled onto something but I won't report it until I have seen some kind of correlation as in a physical device that either proves or disproves it... I understand that the CURIE temperature, will cause a magnet to lose all its field, but when recooled, it regains the field...and you correctly stated the process....I AM IMPRESSED...WHERE the hell have you been???? Guess you made it home OK?? Well, will report after I do the experiment, have to try to locate the materials locally to keep from waiting for mail order....later...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 53 DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 17:28 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MICHAEL ROHA Subject: (R) Comment Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Lost and Confuse (Mike)! Welcome to KeelyNet and we will do everthing we can to warp all reality as you currently conceive of it, (right guys???)....I suggest you take down the ALLFILES.ZIP, then for starters try NEUTRAL1 and WRIGHT1 and the TACHYON series and the ZPE series and the AGE series and the DPALMA series and the SWEET series and the HYDE series...that should get you started...as to the work of Doyle Noyes...I don't currently have a file on him, but you are correct in mentioning a message to that effect....it was on a past crashed message base (but I saved off the threads for a file)..that I will eventually get on the board...it has something to do with what a good scientist friend calls "MOTOR SENSITIVES"..people like John Keely, Lester Hendershott and others who could make machines work quite easily while others could not although they copied their actions exactly...a very strange process and I won't go into it just now...take the files, read them, discuss with you interested friends, and post your questions, we have lots of very bright folks here who will assist you (if I can't make up stuff fast enough...hehehe)...later...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 54 DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 17:35 From : MARK MANSFIELD -- RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: Diamagnetism Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Bob, ran across something you and Jerry might be interested in. In reference to message 52 on 4/23/93. From "Encyclopedia of Physis" by Rita G. Lerner/George L. Trigg, 2ed. edition. The phenomenon of diamagnetism is a consequence of induction, whereby a substance experiences polarization when placed in a magnetic field. In this respect it is similar to the analogous phenomenon of para- magnetism. Furthermore, diamagnetic substances contain no permanent magnetic dipoles, whereas normal paramagnetic materials do. Also, there is neither a normal temperature dependence nor a magnetic field dependence associalted with diamagnetism. In discussing inductive magnetic effects it is customary to involke the definition K=I/H, where K is the magnetic susceptibility per unit volume of substance, I is the intensity of magnetization of the sub- stance, and H is the strength of the magnetic field. For diamagnetism I is negative and smaller than H, and thus the susceptibility is neg- ative and small (i.e., approx.10-6 enu). The measurement of diamag- netic susceptibilities is attained through the observation of an ap- parent mass change which the substances exhibit when placed in a suf- ficiently strong magnetic field. In a diamagnetic material this is observed as a net mass loss resulting from the magnetic force tending to repel the substance from the field. According to the atomic theory of matter, diamagnetism is a conseq- uence of the orbital motion of electrons, and hence is a universal property of all matter. In fact the majority of substances are observed to be diamagnetic, while, relatively speaking, the net nondiamagnetic behavior of matter is rather rare in nature. Common substances such as wood, plastics, water, sand (SiO2), nitrogen, CO2, NaCl, CaCO3, Al2O3, etc., and the millions of organic compounds and most biological substances are all diamagnetic. In graphite and certain metals an anomalous large diamagnetism is observed, which is also found to be somewhat temperature and magnetic field dependent. This is called "Landau diamagnetism," after the famous physicist, and results from the large delocalization of the orbital motion of electrons in such systems. There is more but it deals with superconductors. Let me know if you are interested in that part. I'll try to type it in for you. Hope this answers some of your questions. It sure did mine. I wasn't clear until I read the above....later....Mark.... cc: Jerry Decker =============================================================================== Message 56 DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 21:02 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MARK MANSFIELD Subject: (R) Diamagnetism Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mark! Yes, I too have several physics books that go into a long explanation, that is why I opted for the Van Nostrand... So, the bottom line is that diamagnetism is essentially repulsion and all masses have it as a rule....except that it is NOT evoked until placed in an applied field....does that about cover it?...thanks for the lookup...I like the details on the water, sand, and biological organisms....>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 63 DATE/TIME: 04/24/93 05:29 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : BRYANT STAVELY Subject: (R) Delphi file Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Bryant! Yes, I will condense all the uploaded buttwipe stuff (a joke son), place it on disk and HAND DELIVER it to you......well, now looks like VanHooser might be reconsidering...ah well, there are lots of other BBSs so much more conducive, maybe I should find some, eh?? later, Stavely dude...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 64 DATE/TIME: 04/24/93 05:31 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MICHAEL ROHA Subject: (R) Comment Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mike! Well, those files aren't exactly the most informative or the best and I have TONS of stuff on Radionics and Psionics...correlates quite nicely with Archetypes and the Hyperspace Gateway to 3space manifestation process...will see what I can do for more "technics, i.e. how to build" stuff on this in the future...glad you found something as a pseudo warp until you get into the major stuff...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 65 DATE/TIME: 04/24/93 09:31 From : MARK MANSFIELD -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: Notes Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Jerry! No I had not made the correlation in reference to ELECTRETS but it should prove just as easy to "process" and maybe even easier. You should be able to substitute a electrostatic field instead of a magnetic field. Many possibilities indeed!!!! As to where I've been, Who the hell knows, I sure don't! wandering around with my head up my ASS I guess. hehehe I too share your impatience waiting for mail order. I mean nothing like needing it yesterday and the only place that has what you want is in bum-*uck-egypt and the only mail service is provided by a pack of turtles. When is the best time to reach you by phone? I'd like to discuss a few things at high baud rates.....later......Mark..... =============================================================================== Message 66 DATE/TIME: 04/24/93 11:32 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MARK MANSFIELD Subject: (R) Notes Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mark! I will be here this weekend and have been "catching" the phone before the answering machine takes over...some fellow called up from Indiana or somewhere like that saying he had emigrated to the US from Germany around 1952...he says he has a fairly detailed article on the TESLA mystery power box as detailed in TESLAFE.ZIP....claims there were only three tubes and they were all BEAM RECTIFIER TYPES, hell he even gave us the tube numbers...anyway, seems this character has tons of info and is willing to translate a very rare German book with some chapters that everyone here will find of interest, so guess I will call him this weekend...as for right now, a physicist contact working with the Brown stuff just called and I have to look up something for him...he sent a kickass paper on the unified field and has some very stimulating ideas in regard to Aether, matter, levitation, etc...I need to get his paper on the BBS as it is quite good and has numerous correlations...as to the call, I will be home all weekend (or so planning at this moment, though I missed a lady friends' birthday and might feel so guilt-ridden that I will have to make a visit)...so, if you decide to call, let it ring twice, if I don't get it by then, hang up because the machine picks it after about 3....ok??? later...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 68 DATE/TIME: 04/24/93 16:36 From : MIKE VANHOOSER -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: (R) Delphi file Folder : A, "Public Mail" Nah, I'm not reconsidering too much, the board is a 99% probability, I'm just in overload over moving. Could use some nice anti-gravs to help with the task. If a working model exists that can support more than a few grams, bring it over and I'll buy the beer. Later, Mike =============================================================================== Message 70 DATE/TIME: 04/24/93 22:15 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MIKE VANHOOSER Subject: (R) Delphi file Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mike! Well, not to that stage JUST YET, but closer every day...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 74 DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 10:46 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To : CLAY TIPPEN Subject: (R) Comment Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Clay! The Tesla BBS has been having some hardware problems as per Toby Grotz....Toby says they expect to be back online shortly once these problems are resolved....The Tesla BBS is normally online 24 hours per day, so hang in there...I will post a public message once we find they have come back online....>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 75 DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 10:48 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : SHAWN BUTTS Subject: (R) Daivid COpperfield Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Shawn! From a book called "More Secrets", available at any decent libray, there are at least two of these books "Secrets" and the first one mentioned that have some interesting articles...>>> Jerry ...guess I could trash it up by outright lying and say that Copperfield ...himself showed it to us, but in some cases, boring as it is, guess ...the truth is best....we like to play with the conspiratorialists ...with an occasional "flame" story, just to see how much they will ...buy.....fun and innocent enough...>>> JWD =============================================================================== Message 83 DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 17:30 From : MARK MANSFIELD -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: WP printers Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Jerry, How goes the gif's? Here is a program called WPDRAW that I think will fill the bill. It says it will have a later version which will print .wpg files. It may be avaliable now (the date on the file is Nov. '90). I tried to call the BBS listed but did not get a answer. I'll try later in the week. cough, cough, sniff, sniff..... I found one article on magnetic field measurement devices but it is changing fields only (AC). My microswitch designers notebook has enough info to design a simple circuit that uses hall effect sensons. I draw up one in WP format and download it to you. Gone for now.....Mark..... =============================================================================== Message 84 DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 18:04 From : WALTER MOHN To : ALL Subject: Re: Upload of ELF-RES.ZIP Folder : A, "Public Mail" This file contains an article from Researach & Development Magazine, April 1993, concerning the potential health effects of extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields. =============================================================================== Message 86 DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 19:49 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MARK MANSFIELD Subject: (R) WP printers Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mark! Geez, you "sound" terrible...but you done good bubba! I will take the file from the upload section and check it out....sounds like a winner that might be quite useful.. As to the Gaussmeter, thanks for the circuit, perhaps I can "modify" it to read static magnetic fields...it could be quite useful as we discussed on the phone....take care of yourself...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 87 DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 19:52 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : WALTER MOHN Subject: (R) Comment Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Walter! Yes, both Charles Yost and Steve Hall have given us full permission to place any of their material online but to tell you the truth I have not found the time to do so...and only a few of the articles is of a nature that would be good for KeelyNetters, though I think I did place an article written by some fellow about the inaccuracies in the "Philadelphia Experiment" story...uh-oh, perhaps that was at out Roundtable meeting instead, sometimes I get them confused....but yes, if you have the time and inclination for the ESJ articles, whatever you choose, I would appreciate the help!! Thanks...I also killed off the file totals so you won't get that harassing system message....later...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 88 DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 19:55 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To : ALL Subject: TESLAFE detail Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Folks! In case you have taken the file TESLAFE describing the free energy device that Tesla constructed and tested in a Pierce Arrow automobile in the early 30's, we have been given additional information from a nice fellow in California. He emigrated to the States from Germany in 1952 and has been following the free energy field for many years. He says there is a book or document that gives QUITE A FEW DETAILS on the Tesla Free Energy Converter and if he can persuade his German source to share it, he will send it our way for distribution to the various nets and researchers.... This fellow is definitely one of us and is HEAVY into the sharing of information with the express purpose of building working machines that EVERYONE can use. Our new friend says that the Tesla F/E Converter used 3 vacuum tubes of the designation 70L7GT...this particular tube is listed as a BEAM POWER TUBE, also called a BEAM RECTIFIER TUBE. One of our other contacts suggested that this might be a mercury tube which would produce the ION ACOUSTIC modulations in the mercury vapor that Moray King mentions in "Tapping the Zero Point Energy" and which T. Henry Moray says is necessary for the successful tapping of the vacuum energy. On speaking with our California source this Sunday, he says his book on tubes does not show this to be a mercury tube although the possibility was at first fascinating. One further comment made was that the mysterious power reduction as mentioned in the file ROSEN1 with the Sweet VTA might be due to a polarization current directly associated with the Earths magnetic fields. He suggests that anyone working with such a device and experiencing this problem, might orient the machine so that the NORTH pole was DOWN, OR facing EAST OR facing WEST...these are possibilities and speculative based on the various magnetic field patterns of the earth. Personally I think it has something to do with pressure or potential reductions in the ambient Aether for a given area... Despite the Michelson-Morley findings claiming there is NO AETHER because they could not detect any aberrations, (they fail to prominently mention the 12 mile variation from experiment to experiment which would lead one to believe in Aether potential changes as a result of entrainment by the Earth)..... Anyway, thought this info might prove of use to all of us working on the duplication and improvement of such free energy devices. Should our California friend succeed in acquiring the details of the Tesla F/E device and translating them to English, we will have them online TOOTSWEET (a pun??).....hang in there, we get closer everyday as long as everyone shares.....>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 89 DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 20:06 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To : ALL Subject: Magnet Conditioning Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Folks! Well, thanks to an excellent piece of correlation by a Mr. Mark Mansfield, we might have a solid clue to the "secret" behind how the Sweet magnets are "conditioned". Rosenthal says that Floyd Sweet had figured out a way to make a magnet record a given frequency in just about any range, he mentions specifically 60CPS to 400CPS... We had been told it had something to do with heating but here is the inside scoop... When a magnet is heated and it reaches a certain temperature (called the CURIE temperature) it will LOSE its magnetic field.... When the magnet is allowed to cool BELOW the CURIE temperature, the magnetic field RETURNS. Mark suggests that a coil be wrapped around a magnet and the magnet heated until it reaches the CURIE temperature so that it will "forget" it's magnetic field. At that time, the desired frequency is applied to the coil and sustained WHILE THE COIL IS COOLED to a temperature BELOW the CURIE temperature.... When this is done, the domains will have "recorded" the applied frequency. Then when the "tickler" or excitation coils are excited at the "recorded" frequency, a resonance is established which serves to open the "gateway" for the vacuum energy... More details on this in an upcoming series of .GIFs as well as files 'splaining the process....so don't bust a gut thinking it stops with this....thanks to MARK for the ELECTRET analogy...excellent bit of correlation although he says he had not thought of the ELECTRETS per se...but "I like it!".....>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 93 DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 01:55 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : GUY RESH Subject: (R) Comment Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Guy! I am told in a phone call that there is an uploaded file written by Sweet himself...just about to offload it to investigate what the hell it is....also, a friend from Tennessee uploaded a file which he says is supposed to allow one to VIEW and PRINT .WPG files....I am going to check that out also since if so, then all our picture files will also be offer in .WPG format since we will have a downloadable PD/Shareware program to allow everyone (IBMers to print/view)...man, that will be great since the .WPG format is so compact and clean.. Anyway, hope you read the messages about magnet conditioning and the TESLA box future info...well, very late and I need to do a bit more before I can sleep...take care...>>> Jerry ...as for Ross, I watched him also and he does tend to get me upset with ...the status quo and how so many are so screwed up that we currently ...have in power....nothing we can really do except keep plugging along ...with the expectation that an experiment will lead to a reproducable ...F/E or antigrav device that can be released to the masses (techtypes) ...of course as most folks won't at first get the import of it.. ...When such a "seeming" miracle event occurs AND it begins to be ...duplicated everywhere around the world, it will no doubt raise hell ...with the energy and oil industries....it would be preferable to ...slowly phase such devices into the industrial base but based on the ...tremendous number of previous devices that have NOT YET come to ...and those for a multitude of reasons, the networking method is the ...ONLY method that offers hope for the broadest distribution in the ...shortest time frame....well....I got on the soap box FOR YOU..>>> JWD =============================================================================== Message 95 DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 10:42 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : ROD FREDLUND Subject: (R) Hi! Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Rod! I plan to get your disks out this week....and I have a scanner with OCR but they are so slow!!! Am currently working on the "plans" for the Sweet machine in the form of .GIFs and Mark Mansfield sent up a file that allows one to VIEW .WPG files...it says in the .DOCs that a later version will allow PRINTING...if I can get this later version, then all the graphic files will be listed as .GIF'S and as .WPG since the .WPG is so compact... Yes, it seems there has been plenty of activity lately and I'd like to be able to focus more on getting some new info out...and now a "surprise" visit from my mother so that should take up about a week...but she knows how I am with computers so I use "some" of that time to do computer work....she is going to help me with a garage sale to get rid of some of the junk that I have accumulated (not electronic) of course as they stuff is quite useable. As to your idea of using a coil simply connected to the AC line to provide 60CPS, it should work OK since I think most everyone would prefer the use of 60CPS....in fact, the energy from the SWEET machine can be rectified for use as DC or simply use as is in the form of AC..that is one of the lures for this particular machine, not only the ability to interchange between AC/DC but it also drives inductive or resistive loads....well, stuff to do, mow the lawn, do the laundry, you know all the support bs....later...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 96 DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 12:49 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: Spelling! Folder : A, "Public Mail" | JD>Oh, by the way, the correct spelling is BISMUTH... | JD>can't help it, I like correct spelling.... | | My frequent reply to spelling errors: | | Spelling: See "The New Age of REASON" by John M. Culkin, | Science Digest-August 1981. | "The English alphabet is pure insanity. It can hardly | spell any word in the language with any large degree of | certainty. ...The sillinesses of the English alphabet are | quite beyond enumeration. Where as the English orthography | needs...simplifying, the English alphabet needs it two or | three million times more." - Mark Twain. | ...an intelligent child who is bidden to spell "DEBT", | and very properly spells it "D-E-T", is canned for not | spelling it with a "B" because Julius Caesar spelled it with | a "B".-George Bernard Shaw. | See also:"Alfubet F/\R hu Komput.r /_\j" (Title is close | as I could get in ASCII.) by John Culkin-Science Digest- | August 1982. "UNIFON, a phonetic alphabet that is five | times more efficient than our ABC's, may revolutionize | reading and writing-and help us communicate better with | computers."..."Fans of Unifon don't want to wait another | 3,000 years before eliminating the illogic from our | language." The UNIFON Alphabet (Trade mark) is by John | Malone. | :-) =============================================================================== Message 97 DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 12:52 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: (R) DIA-Magnetic Folder : A, "Public Mail" | JD>....Diamagnetic materials are SLIGHTLY LESS | JD>....permeable, thus negative, aligning ACROSS the field. | | This is what I thought Dia-magnetic meant, didn't know that the | rest went along with it. | | I have a problem saying that wood or plastic is in any form | magnetic tho..??? =============================================================================== Message 98 DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 12:53 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: Stuff Part #1 Folder : A, "Public Mail" | I'm moving into a new house, in the process I was cleaning my | files. The junk presented below applies to several of the messages on | here recently Part 1: | | ============================================ | | "Are Sine Waves Sacred?" by Irving M. Gottlieb in 73 Magazine | May 1986 | | ============================================ | | "Kenyon, Dr. Keith: GENERATOR-ALTERNATOR --- 125% efficiency | claimed and demonstrated! "Makes use of the magnetic lines of force on | both sides of the magnets, by turning the concept of ordinary generators | inside out. A disk with magnets on it spins, with stationary windings | on both sides of the spining disk. Thus greater efficiency is | available." The generator is further distinguished by a thick aluminum | band running around the rim of the generator wheel; i is believed that | the Al is the key to the "extra" energy...6 Articles & USP...38 pp." | | Rex Research K6-KEN / 122-KEN | | USP: 4,438,342: 03/20/1984 "Novel Hybrid Electric Vehicle" | | ============================================ | | "The Mathematic Laws of sound: (Relastionship of sound to | gravity)" by Barbra Hero. Energy Unlimited #12. | | ============================================ | | "SEE, T.J.: WAVE THEORY OF GRAVITATION --- Despite high | recommendation by Tesla and by psychic E. Cayce and others, the | "Wave-Theory of the Aether" has been quite completely ignored by most | all scientists. The noted astronomer Capt. T.J...J See explained | gravitational, magnetic and electrostatic fields as longitudinal or | compression waves in the Aether, of approximately the same magnitude as | the distances over which they operate. Light, head and radio are | described as transverse or shear waves in the Aether...When the | longitudinal Aether waves that radiate from masses are coupled, they | produce a relative aether vacuum between them, and the bodies are pushed | together. The apparent mass of an accelerating body is caused by | increasing drag resistance from the viscous aether.. If a body is | rotated at a certain speed, an associated aether vacuum is produced | which prevents transmission of the gravitational force. This opens the | way to anti-gravity levitation..The theories of Ch. Brush, Dr.Nieper, | Prof Niper (v.i.) all find unification herein...Includes bibliography, | review, and 2 articles by See introducing his ideas...30 pp." | Rex Research: 195-SEE | | ============================================ | | "EINSTEIN, Albert: UNIFIED FIELD THEORY --- "Zur Einheitlichen | Feld-Therie" is the alleged "unfinished/incomplete/missing" jewel of | E.'s theorizing. "Einstein did indeed complete a version of his | 'Unified Field Theory for Gravitation and Electricity' in the period | 1925-27. The results published in German, appeared in Prussian | scientific journals for 1925 and 1927." And here they are now, with | commentaries" | Rex Research: E5-EIN/Einstein: U.F.T. | | ============================================ | | We where attributing this to T.T.Brown a few dozen messages ago: | | "CRAIG, Palme | developed a Hall Effect device consisting of a stack of Bismuth films | sandwiched with copper coils. The device enabled good radio reception | without vacuum tubes or batteries! Craig discovered and additive | principle that generates several volts in very low magnetic fields | (e.e., Earth strength, not kilo-gausses as in conventional Hall Effect | devices -- none of which can do anything that this can).. "Gives the | Hall Effect a practical importance as a rectifier, especially in radio & | similar applications"--Here is a pre-transistor | detector-amplifier-oscillator-rectifier-battery all in one tiny device! | What more do you want" 2 Articles, 3 USP." | Rex Research: 060-CRA/C11-CRA | | USP 1,778,796 7/9/1926|7/14/1929 | USP 1,825,855 | USP 1,822,129 09/08/1931 | =============================================================================== Message 99 DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 12:56 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: Stuff Part #2 Folder : A, "Public Mail" | I'm moving into a new house, in the process I was cleaning my | files. The junk presented below applies to several of the messages on | here recently Part 2: | | ============================================ | | "EHRENHAFT, Felix: THE MICRO-MAGNET --- Between the 1920s and | 1940s, Prof. Ehrenhaft (DIR., Physics Dept., Univ. Vienna) performed | numerous experiments with "impossible" anomalous magnetic phenomena that | upset all ideas about magnetism. He was able to decompose water with | permanent magnets -- and the Alinico magnet suffered a 10& loss in | strength over 24 hours!. This offers evidence for the existence of a | "Magnet Current" (Nowadays called Monopoles..Ehrenhaft called them | "Micro-Magnets". His discoveries were confirmed by others, and it was | speculated that the tests might "lead to momentous applications in power | machiner of the future"--but not yet...The implications of Ehrenhaft's | work have been inexplicably ignored and forgotten. Now the call for | replication and development. Here are complete experimental details, | ect., in 10 articles..50pp." | Rex Research: 077-EHR/E3-EH1 | | ============================================ | | "CATT, Ivor: THEORY H --- The "Heaviside Signal" offers an | alternative perspective of the transverse EM wave and the problem of | "Displacement Current" devised by Maxwell to explain away paradoxical | behavior of capacitors..."Instead of the familiar "rolling wave" idea r postulates | and unchanging slab of ExH energy travelling forward at the speed of | light, and names it the Heaviside Signal after a concept expressed in | the writings of Oliver Heaviside. This process does not reply on a | causal relationship between the electric and magnetic fields, which are | seen as coexistent." Includes: Discussions of some weaknesses in the | traditional approach to EM theory, and the establishment of sounder | foundation "Waves in Space" "Hidden Messages in Maxwell's Equations" | ..8 Articles" | | Rex Research: 049-CAT/C2-CAT | | I can make sence of this one, did T.E.Beardon read this | before he did his? :-) | | ============================================ =============================================================================== Message 101 DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 17:31 From : DAVID MCWHERTER To : ALL Subject: Borderland Sciences Folder : A, "Public Mail" Just wondering if anyone out there knows how to get in touch with Borderland Sciences...thanks. =============================================================================== Message 102 DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 17:57 From : MARK MANSFIELD -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: Magnetic Fields Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Jerry, I'm uploading a ascii file called magcheck.asc that is a circuit for a simple and cheap device for checking magnetic fields. I didn't spend a lot of time spicing it up or giving detailed disc. for everything because it is so simple. I think it will fill the bill in what you asked for though. It can be calibrated with a known magnetic field strength. Microswitch has a small magnet that has a 420 gauss field part no. 101MG4. Sprague made a Hall Effect sensor a few years ago but have discon- tinued it. The part no. is UGN3501M. It would fill the bill even better because it has differential outputs and looks to be more accu- rate for your and mine's use. I called Newark Electronics as well as a distributor in Louisville, KY but neither had any left in stock. I would like to get a few of this part if possible. I'll mail you some app. notes from a sprague designers book that has lots of stuff on calibration of these things. I've ordered some of the UGN3501U devices from Newark (17 to be exact) so don't order any yourself, I'll send you some. I had to meet their $25 min. order. My magnets are starving for a little hyperspatial gateway influx!!!!!! ....hint.....hint..... I'll be in touch......Mark..... =============================================================================== Message 105 DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 21:14 From : MIKE HUGHES -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: gravity3.asc - more info Folder : A, "Public Mail" In the file GRAVITY3.ASC which describes building a resonant gravity field coil - there is an appendix by Joseph Misiolek giving info on a replacement modulator coil. Do you know if this coil is wound as a toroid over the second coil or as a larger solenoid coil around the periphery of the "donut"? -------------------- NOTE: This message has been FORWARDED to Joseph Misiolek by Mike Hughes on 05/03/93 at 19:42 =============================================================================== Message 108 DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 23:22 From : BRYANT STAVELY -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: First Saturday? Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hey dare...I'm in need of a new hard drive for an old 80286 PC and would like to shop the First Saturday crowd. Where is it at and when? I know you've been there before. Please and thanks. =============================================================================== Message 109 DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 06:24 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: (R) Notes Folder : A, "Public Mail" | | JWD> I understand that the CURIE temperature, will cause | JWD> a magnet to lose all its field, but when recooled, | JWD> it regains the field... | | I know this isn't directly related to this context, but I | thought I would bring it up. | | Tesla's Patent #428,057 May 13/1890 "Pyromagneto-Electric | Generator" uses this effect to generate power. By having a magnet | oscillating above and below its Curie temperature. | =============================================================================== Message 110 DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:09 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: (R) DIA-Magnetic Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Bob! Well, you know, it would seem that EVERYTHING should be magnetic to "some" extent since everything has electrons spinning which would have an associated magnetic field, though very weak, I am sure.. Anyway, I guess this would relate more specifically to not the micro effect of elements but rather a more global macro effect of the mass aggregate...more to worry about...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 112 DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:12 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : DAVID MCWHERTER Subject: (R) Security Error - Phone Number Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi David! Don't know what I can do here, only one other fellow is having problems and he is running an AMIGA with some odd type of modem......this one is a US Robotics and seems to be working OK as far as I can tell...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 113 DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:13 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : DAVID MCWHERTER Subject: (R) Borderland Sciences Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi David! Download the CONTACT1.ZIP list, it has the names and addresses of many of our contacts including Tom Brown at Borderland Sciences....>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 114 DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:15 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MARK MANSFIELD Subject: (R) Magnetic Fields Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mark! Sounds like you've been busy....I don't really keep up with the current stuff as in Radio Electronics, etc...just every now and then, have more than enough to work on using the technology I know...and that seems to be enough....I just want to fly without a plane!....got part of the Sweet diagram done yesterday and am expecting a total of about 4 .GIFs with some ASCII explanatory text...that should get folks excited enough to do some damage....>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 115 DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:17 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : WARREN CURRY Subject: (R) Comment Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Warren! These things happen, heck, I nearly missed last months meeting...that is the first in 7 meetings that I have not been able to get out mailers, though I called everyone I could find numbers for or get an answer...I did not leave a cover sheet so Ron did not know just what was supposed to be mailed out....worked out just fine just the same as we met a really interesting lady and went over later to see her machine...she will return in about a month...see you at the meeting...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 116 DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:19 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MIKE HUGHES Subject: (R) gravity3.asc - more info Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mike! I don't really know, that is kind of "old" info but you can leave a message to Joe here and he will get it when he next logs on ...he is listed as JOSEPH MISIOLEK so that the system will know to direct the message to his E-Mail...good luck and I would be EXTREMELY CAREFUL working with this particular circuit...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 118 DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:21 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : BRYANT STAVELY Subject: (R) First Saturday? Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Bryant! I believe it is the 2nd Saturday of each month and is located at Ross and Central (on the city side)....you can't miss it as most of the parking spaces are taken up with tables and trucks selling stuff....get THERE EARLY as the good stuff goes kind of fast...they start at about 7AM...you might call Rick Sheppard, he frequents it but I have not been in a long time...too much that I can't get to now... Though I picked up a 10MB hard drive about 2 years ago for $10...never used it though....did you see Steve Blows column about radio station KUKU (KRLD) and Ron Engleman...man he tore up the program and the listeners...I thought more than unfairly...the show has served a purpose in getting out the WACO info to a greater majority of folks despite all the conspiracy types that did call in...but anyone can see, just watching the video tapes, where the fire came from...a puzzle... later...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 119 DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:25 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: (R) Notes Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Bob! WOW, I will have to look into that patent! Perhaps you know of something I once read about called a PIEZOBARIC chamber which was supposed to produce an intense COLD?? Now we would think in terms of the thermoelectric coolers that are so prominent, but this thing got down into the -100s...never found any details on it though...One fellow said you could gang the thermoelectric units to get successively cooler temperatures but -100s?? later...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 122 DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 20:42 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MARK MANSFIELD Subject: (R) Notes Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mark! Yes, I took down that Rainbow number also but have not have a chance to call yet...and the Bloch Wall has long been of interest to me since first reading about it in the work or Davis/Rawls...they are the fellows who discovered the TRUE pattern of magnetic field flow which is still NOT generally known or taught...there are multiple tests to prove what they found...As to my mother, that is NEXT month. And as for the SWEET file, turns out to be about 4 postscript documents that I can't print just yet....have to see what I have that can read them...but there is no text, just the 4 diagrams....I am told these were drawn up by Sweet himself....later...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 123 DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 01:53 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: (R) Levitation Machine? Folder : A, "Public Mail" Oh no! Someone else has discovered my idea for a museum exhibit! I guess it had to happen. Seriously, I have several pages of ideas and drawings I came up with two years ago for a maglev demonstration which are identical to your inventor's creation. I'll be happy to mail copies to any interested parties. (Too bad they're not copyrighted or notarized!) One other way to do it: cover a tabletop with thick aluminum rods, support and spin the rods on axis at high speed, then place a strong magnet over this bed of moving metal. The magnet will hover. The secret here is that magnets repel all conductive materials briefly when the two are brought near each other. The repulsion is caused purely by eddy currents, and it works with copper, aluminum, etc. (With superconductors the eddy currents do not die away, so the repulsion is not just a brief thing, it is sustained forever.) So in a way, a rotating copper or aluminum object can act much like a superconductor. It will repel a magnet continuously. It will also tend to throw the magnet outward in the direction of rotation, an effect caused by the field lines of the magnet becoming "stuck" in the moving metal. Have you heard of the maglev train that contains DC magnets and can only levitate over its heavy wide track of aluminum when the train is moving fast? The invention above is the same thing, except the aluminum track is moving and the magnet "flys" in place. Anyone can try this: obtain a small neodymium "supermagnet" and a large hunk of copper or aluminum. Hold the two in your hands and pass one over the other rapidly. You will feel a "syrupy" feeling of magnetic drag. If you do it for a while, you will also notice a slight repulsion as the magnet moves across the metal. I've worked on the original of the "jumping ring" museum exhibit in question, and you are right: it works in a very similar way. When the capacitor is discharged into the coil, an immense magnetic field is generated briefly. The electromagnet and the aluminum ring then repel each other violently. Since the ring is free to move, it gets flung upwards as if it had been hit by a hammer blow. (MUSEUM TRIVIA: the "jumping ring" exhibit was invented by Harold "Doc" Edgerton of MIT, also the inventor of strobe light, and was first installed at the Museum of Science in Boston. Other museums have copied the exhibit) - Bill Beaty =============================================================================== Message 125 DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 09:09 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: (R) Notes Folder : A, "Public Mail" | JWD> Perhaps you know of something I once read about called a | JWD> PIEZOBARIC chamber which was supposed to produce an intense | JWD> COLD?? | | Two thing that come to mind are some thing called a | Intermittent Absorption Refrigerator. You heat one end and the | other end gets very cold. The other is a vortex tube. You put | compressed air in the middle and very hot air comes out one end, | and very cold air comes out the other. You can buy vortex tubes | commercially, they are used for spot cooling of things like drill | bits on large industrial drills. In Popular Mechanics there were | complete construction details if your good a plumbing. | | Nether of these sound like the 'chamber' that you are | looking for tho. | | ====================================================================== | | KEITH, David: INTERMITTENT ABSORPTION REFRIGERATOR --- | This is the simplest and most compact, low tech refridgerator | system: It utilizes any heat source to produce sub-zero | temperatures for as long as 48 hours. Invented in the 1920s, | marketed a while, then disappeared..Now it's being revived and | redeveloped. Consists of 2 balls (hot & cold) connected with | pipe, charged with self-circulating household ammonia water. | Do-it-your self with these 2 articles and complete US patent (14 | pp.) | | Rex Research: 121-KEI/K5-KEI | | "The "Heat Makes Cold" Refrigeration Unit": in Scientific | American, issue unknown. | | "The Incredible Wood-Burning Refrigerator" in Mother Earth News, | issue unknown. Reference to Dale Degler. | | USP: 1,740,737 "Refrigerating Device" 12/24/1929 | | ====================================================================== | | Can you give any more details about the PIEZOBARIC | chamber, like what is its input? I might know it by an other | name. I'll keep a eye out for info... | =============================================================================== Message 126 DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 09:34 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: (R) Levitation Machine? Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Bill! Well, well, another "late" inventor....I was fascinated by the video but when the guys said the levitated mass was NOT magnetic, thats what drew my interest....I guess a creative person could come up with something useful based on this effect, (and I don't mean just toys)...bit I have other rats to kill...thanks for the comments and background...always good to find correlations......>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 128 DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 09:41 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: (R) Notes Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Bob! As I understand it, this ammonia business has quite some possibilities as a thermodynamic free energy system, there is a file here (can't think of the name of it) that talks about some Danish scientist who claims he had an F/E device based on this fluid and the Carnot cycle.. But back to the business at hand, the name itself implies using crystals and that's about all I know about it....the intent was to get away from a CFC type refrigerant system and go "solid state"...and I just can't see how such low temperatures could be accomplished without using some kind of diffusion process....DAMN, you must be organized to be able to pull up such neat stuff so fast, I have to rely on my aging brain and hoping I can find the right pile...some day...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 131 DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 15:58 From : DAVID MCWHERTER To : ALL Subject: Help Folder : A, "Public Mail" I was wondering what this aether really is. Is it a field(substance) which is everywhere that acts the same way with light as air/water/plastic or any other type of material does with sound? This sounds probable to me because of the relatively slow speed that light travels at. It makes you think that there is some type of physical compression/expansion that would consume minutes amount of time for each compression/expansion that the light wave propegates through. I'm not sure if that sounds right...at least I understand it. Secondly, I was wondering if it might be possible to have/build a diamagnet, not a diamagnetic substance. If so, what would, if anything, be different when constructing, say, a motor with one. Also, I'd like to get in touch with a place that sells bismuth bars or rods, if anyone knows of a place that sells it. I think that strontium I think that I read that strontium is a diamagnetic substance. This makes me think of whether barium is diamagnetic because I either read or someone told me that strontium ferrite is one of the dielectrics that TT Brown played around with. Thirdly, what is this negative electricity? I read a bit about it, but what, exactly is it? Thats all for today, May you find prosperity in your long journey to truth, my son... =============================================================================== Message 132 DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 16:09 From : DAVID MCWHERTER To : ALL Subject: PS Folder : A, "Public Mail" PS: Diamagnets/magndiamagnetic substances do not lose their strengths when subjected to extreme heat.... =============================================================================== Message 133 DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 18:38 From : DAVID RAMOS -- RECEIVED -- To : CHRIS WIERICKS Subject: Einstein's Unified Field Theory Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hey Chris, thanks for the suggestion, I'll download TECH_1.ASC if its available here. Also, thanks for Rex Research's address, I think I'll give them a note and see what they are working on. =============================================================================== Message 134 DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 18:41 From : DAVID RAMOS -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: New Friend from India Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hey jerry, Man, I think we are on a roll here! I sure would like to know about that book from the Indian friend who came through Germany. In fact, DON'T LET THIS GET AWAY UNTIL WE GET ALL WE CAN! Man, am I excited!! By the way, If you're looking for a magnetic meter of some type, this issue of HOME POWER magazine has one that can be made from a few Radio Shack parts and a DVM. If you would like it lemme know, I'll mail you a copy... COME ON GUYS, LETS GET THIS MAGNETISM/GRAVITY STUFF FIGURED OUT AND GIVE THIS COUNTRY SOME REAL HARDWARE TO BE PROUD ABOUT... =============================================================================== Message 137 DATE/TIME: 04/29/93 02:33 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : DAVID RAMOS Subject: (R) New Friend from India Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi David! I don't know anything about an Indian but I think you misunderstood the post...the original indicated the guy was from Germany and LIVED in Indiana...in fact, on speaking with him, he came from Germany and LIVES in California...not of import but it simply corrects for the facts. He says the fellow who has this info is VERY DIFFICULT to deal with but if he can "suck up" to him in the proper way, he might be able to these very important papers...his ability to translate from the German is also a great plus which will work to our favor. I also have some major leads on the Sweet machine and am currently working on several .GIFs that should blow everyone away...it all takes time however and I have to work as a corporate slave for my living...somebodys gotta pay for this stuff....later...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 139 DATE/TIME: 04/29/93 02:38 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : BRYANT STAVELY Subject: (R) First Saturday? Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Bryant! Yes, call Rick at 424-5855 (guess whose number that is?)...you might leave him a message unless he happens to be there, but he almost never answers the phone because it belongs to someone else...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 140 DATE/TIME: 04/29/93 09:47 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To : ALL Subject: Cloned Organs Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Folks! Something has been bugging me lately in regard to a visit from a fellow out in California. I can't even remember his name but he was telling me there was a doctor in Germany who was successfully cloning complete human organs which could be transplanted back into the donor. The idea was that any diseased or defective organ had SOME healthy tissue. A sample of that tissue was taken and grown through the cloning process until a complete organ had been generated. Once this was done, the diseased organ was removed and the new organ put in its place. Since the tissue came from the donor originally, there was no rejection factor. My problem with this is the "differentiation" process which defines just what type of tissue grows in what section of the body.... Muscle is quite different from liver and liver is quite different from kidney tissue...etc... Sheldrakes morphogenetic field and Burr's Electrodynamic field are believed to be the "organizers" of the body matrix, that is, they define and create the patterns which govern the formation of specific tissue for a specific function in a given section of the body. From my understanding of cloning, differentiated tissue such as liver or kidney, when removed from the body, fed and nurtured properly, will de-differentiate into a mass of tissue that is only somewhat the same kind of tissue. It does not grow into a complete organ nor does the tissue remain the same. If this is so, then perhaps this doctor found a way to maintain an artificial formative environment to provide a matrix in which the tissue can grow a complete organ. This subject is intensely interesting because if it can be done, it would provide a MAJOR ADVANCE in medicine for folks such as diabetics, dialysis, heart, liver, etc. patients who have defective organs...not to mention the many other transplant patients who die before a donor is actually found. So, I would greatly appreciate your thoughts and comments on this matter, particularly information regarding this doctor...I did not get his name as the fellow promised he would send me the man's book (after I paid him $30). That has not happened and I kick myself for at least not writing down the name. Well, another aspect of life that has tremendous potential to a great number of folks that might get swept under the rug if no one looks into it....thanks for whatever you might come up with...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 141 DATE/TIME: 04/29/93 18:24 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To : ALL Subject: Sweet related files Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Folks! Finally got the drawings done that relate to the SWEET VTA. Do a new files listing for any new .GIFs and you can download and flame me out as you wish. I can take it....but I stand by the BLOCH Wall effects and the Davis/Rawls work as it is so far advanced from common accepted magnetic concepts as to render them primitive.... What is most intriguing is how the bifilar winding of the output coils essentially cancels out the magnetic field from the windings, thus outputting only what Hooper calls an "electric" or "motional" field. That is, it is not capacitive, resistive or inductive...can we say "Homing Conductance" achieved on a mechanical level??... Comments on the .GIFs or whatever???.............>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 144 DATE/TIME: 04/29/93 21:03 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : SCOTT KIRK Subject: (R) Re: Upload of 70L7GT.TXT Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Scott! I have not seen the specs or anything beyond what the fellow told us on the phone....guess we will have to wait for what he gets from his German contact...you know, it does not take POWER to get the free energy or anti-grav effects, simply a BIASING signal that serves to "influence" or "re-direct" the flow....kind of like the passive effect of the mirrored reflectors in a laser...they do nothing but reflect until the intensity of the beam overcomes their reflective ability, at which the now very powerful beam escapes...we shall see...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 148 DATE/TIME: 04/30/93 10:28 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MATTHEW HALEY Subject: (R) Comment Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Matt! And welcome to Keelynet....the newsletter kind of got out of hand so I don't even try to do that anymore, much as I would like to...someday maybe will start it up again but for now, just too much to do....thanks for asking...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 149 DATE/TIME: 04/30/93 10:29 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MARK MANSFIELD Subject: (R) Notes Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mark! No, we here at KeelyNet ENCOURAGE the OPEN sharing of information....stuff that is proprietary or under development is in "higher" sections not available to the general public so that is where some of the weirder and more private info is. As to most comments, that is why I leave them open in the 'A' section and/or reply to "private" comments with comments left in the 'A' section also...of course, if it is sensitive or otherwise contains information that should not be publicly posted, then of course it is toggled private... So, you got a buzz eh??? Would it not be the coil windings vibrating in the magnetic field? I don't know as I don't currently have the magnets that I feel will do the job...personally, I don't think you HAVE to have the barium ferrite, just that they might be more efficient or yield a higher output. I kind of think if it works at all as Sweet found (and as mentioned in ROSEN1) then just about any higher density magnet will work, i.e. 5 up to 8 grade as specified....the real test is to build it... Of course, in the video, one wonders WHY he shows the magnets being ganged with like poles together and bound tightly to keep them under contact...I got the impression he was imparting some kind of useable information and I think the .GIFs show how that would assist in the "densest" possible virtual Bloch Wall....ah well, things to do, still lots to catch up on from the conference (you know, all the business cards with things folks want more info on)....later...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 150 DATE/TIME: 04/30/93 10:38 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MARK MANSFIELD Subject: (R) Stuff Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mark! Yes, and I forgot to leave you a message to that effect...I DID leave a public message so guess it wasn't a total bust, most people check the new files as a habit on almost every call, so figured someone would catch it.... Breathlessly awaiting your comments, notice I "blamed" you for the conditioning correlation....hehehe...a bit of infamy as it makes the rounds, eh???....>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 151 DATE/TIME: 04/30/93 10:40 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : RUSSELL ADAMS Subject: (R) Comment Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Russell! Glad you like it, say the word if you need higher access for more time and file totals per call...nothing is sacred here...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 153 DATE/TIME: 04/30/93 13:59 From : DAVID RAMOS -- RECEIVED -- To : KEN BOZEMAN Subject: Home Power article Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hey Ken, I'll be sending you that copy before the weekend is over...laters... =============================================================================== Message 154 DATE/TIME: 05/01/93 00:08 From : MATTHEW HALEY To : ALL Subject: Starlite Folder : A, "Public Mail" I'm not sure if this has been talked about here yet or not, but there's an interesting article in the April 26 issue of Chemical and Engineering News, about a man by the name of Maurice Ward, who without a scientific degree of any kind, is purported to have invented (well, more like happened upon) a material he has dubbed 'Starlite'. This is believed to be made up of as many as 21 ingredients--at least two or three conventional organic polymers(such as polypropylene) mixed with organic and inorganic additives including borates and ceramics. At least 80% of the material is said to be organic polymer. The fascinating thing about this material is it's amazing resilience and energy-dissipating properties. It has been tested at the Ministry of Defence labs in the UK, as well as the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico, where it was subjected to simulated nuclear flashes that generated temperatures of up to 10,000 degrees C, with little or no damage to the sample. It has also been shown to deflect laser energy. Laser blasts that would normally burn holes through ordinary plastics are said to leave Starlite samples virtually unscathed. This material apparently protects itself from laser beams by forming a plasma at the irradiation site, and that plasma scatters the incident light. It has been hypothesized that the composite produces microstructures beneath its surface that act to specularly reflect the radiation. Comments--MH =============================================================================== Message 157 DATE/TIME: 05/01/93 13:21 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : RONALD DEKEYZER Subject: Line Noise Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Ronald! Sorry about all that line noise...tell you what, leave me your mailing address in a private message along with a list of the files you want and what kind of disk format (1.2MB, 1.44MB) IBM or MAC and I will mail you the files to save you the trouble..OK?? Up to you fellow!...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 160 DATE/TIME: 05/01/93 13:53 From : RONALD DEKEYZER -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: TIME Folder : A, "Public Mail" PLEASE EXTEND MY TIME SO I CAN DOWNLOAD 'ALLFILES.ZIP' . =============================================================================== Message 162 DATE/TIME: 05/01/93 19:24 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : BRYANT STAVELY Subject: (R) Where DID that masked man go? Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Bryant! I have not seen him either, perhaps his droid batteries are down?? But methinks the conspiracy stuff is a PRIMARY forte rather than the REAL information (beyond medical of course)....who knows?? Did you get a hard drive?? You might post a message here and someone might have one to sell....>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 163 DATE/TIME: 05/01/93 19:28 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : RONALD DEKEYZER Subject: (R) TIME Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Ronald! OK, got your address and everything so will send you the non-technical as you requested. Really sorry about that line noise but the overseas connections are sometimes pretty pitiful. You are the first from the Antilles but we have had callers from Spain, England, Australia, Germany, Russia, Denmark, Sweden, Guam, Hawaii and other areas and I don't recall seeing that much noise... Anyway, will run off in 3.5, 1.44MB and mail out next week...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 164 DATE/TIME: 05/01/93 22:20 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To : ALL Subject: Corrections to VTA1 & VTA2 Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Folks! Damn, before I get FLAMED by everyone for one major GLARING error and a lack of precision in another file, I should APOLOGIZE for posting these without waiting at least one day to re-read them....as one writes what appears to be accurate information, often the inspiration of the moment occludes errors, so I usually wait at least one day to give my mind time to settle. So, the specific errors are : VTA1.GIF - blatantly and FALSELY states an output of up to 1000KW! Well, let's get more real and try 1000 Watts or 1 Kilowatt. Don't know how I let this slip by and it is so embarrassing....anyway, there is a NEW and CORRECTED VTA1.GIF if you would PLEASE download it and destroy the earlier version.....thanks... VTA3.GIF - no real error on this one, just a lack of precise prescription. We know that a bifilar winding will cancel the magnetic flux, so what is output from a virtually expanded field that is impressed across a BIFILAR COIL is the POTENTIAL or voltage that Bearden talks about in his FREENRG3 paper bearing the title (The Final Secret for Free Energy). So, with no magnetic field present, we have the Hooper or "motional" or "pure electric" field that seems to have spin direction which yields cold current or negative electricity. . So, if you want the corrected versions, they are both only about 10K each and you might want to destroy the originals and download the corrected or expanded version.... Still not flaming and I am quite surprised that no one has SAID anything about the 1000KW error....well glad it was caught, unfortunately, there were probably about 20+ downloads of these files since being placed online this week.... Thanks for your patience...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 165 DATE/TIME: 05/02/93 06:35 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To : ALL Subject: Power Fail? Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Folks! Don't know if you might have tried calling Sunday morning, but when I got up around 6 AM, I noticed KeelyNet had a single flashing cursor.....since there was a storm last night, I assume the power fluctuated or something happened that crashed the system... Anyway, rebooted and it came up with no problems.....>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 166 DATE/TIME: 05/02/93 09:12 From : MARK MANSFIELD -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: VTA stuff Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Jerry, I noticed the errors in the .GIF's but thought I would give some others a chance to catch them. If I knew no one else was going to I would have said something. Oh well, that's infamy for you. I haven't had a chance to work with the magnets yet but plan on it today! I'll drop you a note of the results. I'm going to try it without the "conditioning" first. If that proves nill, I'll give them a little heat and AC field. Later.....Mark...... s =============================================================================== Message 167 DATE/TIME: 05/02/93 09:58 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MARK MANSFIELD Subject: (R) VTA stuff Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mark! Yep, I figured someone had seen the errors, just had not gotten back yet....are you still using the disk drive magnets?? I will probably look around this week for some of those long magnets...Edmund Scientific is too damned expensive and I can SURELY pick up some locally, Dallas is not a small town after all, will just take some hunting....I would like to try not only the bar/cylinders but also the disc type to see what happens....one thing that is really intriguing is the output of what Bearden calls Potential as a direct result of the cancellation of the magnetic field through use of a bifilar winding in the output coils...quite intriguing...anyway, will report back when I get some decent experiment.......later...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 168 DATE/TIME: 05/02/93 11:21 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To : ALL Subject: Relaxation Times Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Folks! Got a call from a fellow I met at the ISNE conference. He asked a professor at a local university where to look for info on RELAXATION TIMES as regards Beardens concept of DSC (degenerate semiconductors). This is specified in Beardens' last paper called The Final Secret to Free Energy (listed on KeelyNet as FREENRG3.ZIP). Bearden says that electrons flow from the inside of a conductor through the conductor until they reach the outside surface. When the surface is reached, they do a right angle turn and move with a velocity that we measure as CURRENT. According to the concept, different elements and or combinations have different "relaxation times" and by choosing the correct element or combination, you can make a "collector" which will build up a rather high potential that can be switched into a load BEFORE the electrons reach the surface and translate into current. Two of our users have been working on this, one with a hi-freq scope, to determine some of the relaxation times of various elements. To date, he recently said he had found a substance that had a relaxation time of 1 second, but has not yet shared that info. As to published charts of various relaxation times, we have not heard of any source...so that is why this fellow asked the professor. He suggested a book called THEORETICAL SOLID STATE PHYSICS, VOLUME 2, CHAPTER 10, by WILLIAM JONES & NORMAN MARSH. This chapter 10 specifically mentions relaxation times, but our friend has not had a chance to look up the reference. If you get a chance to visit a local tech/science library, we would appreciate it if you could share whatever you find regarding this particular book or subject. One other mention from our phone friend, he says he was told that BELL LABS of NJ had done extensive work on relaxation times but was not aware of any publications relating to it. Makes sense because of phone switching and communication problems that might arise from too slow response time....remember Bearden said that most of the older F/E devices used "corroded wire" which is another way of saying doped to alter their relaxation times..... I have experienced this corrosion effect for years working with PC boards...I always called it "cathodic dirt" because it results from ionized particles being attracted to lower or ground potentials. This happens mostly with DC circuits, but I have seen it with AC also. Anyway, another small lead, it all helps in one way or another...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 169 DATE/TIME: 05/02/93 14:28 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To : ALL Subject: VTA4.GIF Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Folks! Got a phone call today from a fellow who says he has been talking extensively with Walter Rosenthal. He says as he understands it, the Sweet VTA magnets do not face end to end but rather lie parallel to each other with Bloch Walls next to each other (well, spaced by the 3 inches necessary for the output coils). The magnets are still in the attractive configuration, that is N/S on one side, N/S on the other side (as diagrammed in the file VTA4.GIF). He also says that the output coils can be single wire (not bifilar) which consequently outputs CURRENT as opposed to the POTENTIAL when using a bifilar winding. Also spoke with a fellow who says he tried using two large magnets that were not "conditioned" and got nothing as an output.....he did however, use STRANDED 24 gauge speaker wire...and if what Bearden says is correct, then the wire should PREFERABLY BE SOLID CORE, such as the magnet wire specified in the Sweet description. Remember, the electrons "ooze" from the center of the conductive material to the surface, so the greater that distance, the greater would be the potential accumulation (also depends on the properties of that particular conductor)....well, enough of that.. Suggest you download VTA4.GIF for a different perspective, only about 9KB....good luck...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 173 DATE/TIME: 05/03/93 08:39 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : DON KIRCHER Subject: (R) Where DID that masked man go? Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Don! As Bryant mentioned, I too thought you dropped off the face of the Earth...as you can see, we have been working on the technical side as a working model that ends up with plans distributed throughout the nets will end up doing more to effect change in our society than anything....imagine when EVERYONE has the plans to build a simple version of a machine that can provide all the power needed for a house OR A CAR, or a PLANE, all WITHOUT GASOLINE!....then the next step, when the secret of how to produce a loss of weight in ANY MASS is suddenly freely distributed and EVERYONE can make their car a flying machine or they can build their own......and follow that with the ultimate solution to all disease that can also be built and effected by each and every person according to a simple plan...won't any single one of these things do more to effect major changes in the world's societies than anything currently happening in regard to the "freedom" movement? I understand the importance of "some" of it, but until LARGE MAJORITIES of folks come together to effect the necessary political power to effect the changes, nothing will happen....I think that any one of those technical methods I named, when found to be buildable and workable will attract an audience that could easily be encouraged to stand up for real changes that would lead to less government and a back to the constitution movement....and get rid of all the current "blame everyone but who the person responsible" movement...i.e...bars and bartendners now can be sued if someone drinks to much, leaves and gets hurt or has a wreck on the way home....BS! Well, glad you are OK just the same...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 175 DATE/TIME: 05/03/93 13:06 From : KEN BOZEMAN To : ALL Subject: 3D pictures Folder : A, "Public Mail" To all... I did not get to go to the IANS conference in Denver, but was told that there was an individual there selling the new 3D pictures. I am very interested in getting some of these pictures, or getting the software to create them. If anyone has a phone number or information on the person that was there selling the pics, please send me mail about it. Thanks... =============================================================================== Message 178 DATE/TIME: 05/03/93 19:45 From : MARK MANSFIELD -- RECEIVED -- To : ROD FREDLUND Subject: Notes Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Rod! O.K. I'll give you a call in the future. As for the laminations, I am using the stator from a DC "universal" motor which is 6" OD with 4" ID. The rotor is constructed from laminations I scrounged from a large power transformer. I carefully removed the laminations from the transformer one at a time (pain in the ass), then cut the center part out of the "E" shape of the laminations then stacked all the laminations together and put them in a large bench vice and drilled a pilot hole in each end and put a bolt through them to hold them all together. Then I drilled a hole through the center of the laminations and put a arbor through to allow them to be put in a metal lathe. I carefully measured the inside diameter of the stator and turned the laminations, that I bolted together, down to about .002" smaller than the stator ID. Removed the arbor and inserted a shaft through the laminations. It looks just like the drawings on the papers you have. BTW, Bob Paddock sent me about 200 pages on the Ecklin generator. I'll copy them off and send them to you if you want them. I didn't see anything more than you have there though. Mostly older stuff. It wound up being about half the size that is described in the patent, but should prove whether it is overunity or not! I haven't got it all wound and assembled yet though. I got side- tracked with the SWEET device and trying to figure it out. The SWEET device has intrigued me since I learned about it from the Bearden papers. It seems to be the ultimate device I have heard about so far: (1)Small (2)Light weight (no pun intended) (3)Has very high output compared to input (4)Should be cheap to build (5)Will run lights, motors, heating, etc.; and the list probably goes on and on! I have a very good idea how he "conditions" his magnets and it shouldn't be to difficult of a process. I spoke to Walt Rosenthal Sunday and he would not tell me the process for conditioning the mag- nets. He said he wasn't for sure himself, that Floyd has not told him the process in it's entirety. Only thing he would say for sure is that it is so novel that he doubted if anyone could figure it out. Well you know me, I told him my theory of how to do it and he would neither say it was or wasn't the way to condition magnets. So I'm still hopeful and about to try it just to see if it will work! There may be some strange ways to "condition" magnets that are not known at this time but given enough time, myself or someone else will figure this thing out and look out world then! I wish I knew someone who was a engineer at a large magnet factory. I'd like to ask a few questions. Rod you are not such a person I pre- sume? Oh well, I'll go for now.....let me know....Mark..... =============================================================================== Message 179 DATE/TIME: 05/03/93 21:23 From : MARK MANSFIELD -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: Davis and Rawls Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Jerry, Quick question....did I understand you to say you a paper written by Albert Roy Davis and Walter Rawls or was it a magizane article or video tape? I would like to know more of their work on the BLOCH wall principle. Thanks.....Mark..... =============================================================================== Message 180 DATE/TIME: 05/03/93 21:29 From : DON KIRCHER -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: (R) Where DID that masked man go? Folder : A, "Public Mail" I fully support all of your goals and your efforts. Too bad that my talents are such that I cannot really contribute, other than to beat the drum-- a task I seem to be well suited for. In a round about way I may be contributing after all. This Waco thing has been a focal point for my personal political awareness and activism. The new issue, post Waco, would seem to be NAFTA and involves issues which will directly affect the climate for the reception of any final product you might come up with--it is difficult to successfully do original research if you cannot feed your family and the best wage you can command is fiftyeight cents an hour... Related issues concern government control of such products. The proposed BTU tax, for example is an attempt to garnish income from such fringe energy sources as Solar energy and **would** affect a device such as you envision. This would thwart the intent of your efforts. Free energy would not be free. Devices would be stickered as scales and balances are today. Those not stickered would be contraband and fair game for the likes of the revenuers/ATF. Food for thought. Unless you have a product ready for market in the **near** future, such activism and soapboxing could well mean the difference between a product available to the common man and one which enjoys "controlled access" thanks to prior legislation and agreements such as NAFTA. In that regard Ross Perot is right; Waco was a distraction taking attention away from that which is really important...our ability to provide for our families. Take care dlk =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Democracy means having the courage and persistance to make the dreams of a free people come true...The people winning these battles don't sit around complaining about apathy; instead they are actively 'doing democracy.' That's right--doing democracy. Democracy is more than a place you live in, more than a belief. Democracy is a skill, something you learn and do. You don't do it, you don't have it." -- Abbie Hoffman =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =============================================================================== Message 182 DATE/TIME: 05/04/93 10:31 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MARK MANSFIELD Subject: (R) Davis and Rawls Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mark! There is a series of books written by Davis and Rawls, those books used to be available from Edmund Scientific but I don't see them listed lately...Albert Davis died a few years ago but Walter Rawls is still alive and living out near Jacksonville, Florida...I think his address is listed in the CONTACT1 file....you might write or call him, he is a really nice guy...he will know where you can buy some books if you are really interested in some of the amazing work they did, especially Davis... I still intend to do some papers for the BBS but so much other to try to stay on top of...anyway, good luck...if you talk or write to him, tell him you know Jerry Decker and he might be a bit more open...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 183 DATE/TIME: 05/04/93 10:34 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : SCOTT KIRK Subject: (R) Re: Upload of 70L7GT.TXT Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Scott! Agreed, I think most of the really amazing effects that we call free energy or anti-grav, etc....will be brought about by simple geometries that redirect or bias ZPE or Aether flows....anyway, thanks for the tube data....and I note that our friend linked up recently...perhaps he can get the document and get a translation of it since I know lots of folks would be interested...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 184 DATE/TIME: 05/04/93 10:37 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : DWAYNE PHILLIPS Subject: (R) Files Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Dwayne! You may do as you wish with the files as long as you share them in the spirit they are intended...that is, don't charge for the info as we believe and practice as open an exchange as possible...the intent is to inspire folks to experiment and open their minds to other ways of doing things.....good luck...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 185 DATE/TIME: 05/04/93 15:54 From : DAVID RAMOS -- RECEIVED -- To : KEN BOZEMAN Subject: (R) Home Power article Folder : A, "Public Mail" Ken, I sent this letter out today, sorry about the delay, I didn't get it copied until last night. =============================================================================== Message 186 DATE/TIME: 05/04/93 17:07 From : MARK MANSFIELD -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: Notes Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Jerry, In reference to message 197.... you talked with a guy that has been in extensive contact with Mr. Rosenthal. You mention that if you use only a single layer of wire, you get current instead of potential. Correct? Just wanted a clear understanding of that. I have some new ideas on the "conditioning" process. I'm not sure if the curie temp. has anything to do with it or not. I got out the books and started reading.... it seems that sometimes there is something called sinusoidally modulated magnetic ordering in ferro- magnetic materials that have hexagonal lattice structures. I called a magnetic materials specialist, but he had left for the day. I'll call back tomorrow! From what I've read, the sine wave ordering in magnets might be more what were are looking for? One thing is for certain, if someone can figure this stuff out without a laboratory in their backyard, we too can do the same. It must be a process that is fairly easy to do with not very elaborate equipment. Mr. Sweet did not even own a O'scope or signal generator until recently (per Mr. Rosenthal). Most everything he had was built/loaned by others. To make a statement like "The conditioning technique is so novel, it is doubtful anyone would ever guess how it is done." does not lend much credit to the rest of the human race! It is becoming a passion to "crack" it now! Did I say HELL-BENT? Oh well....later....Mark.... P.S. I might call later to discuss the above, but probably not tonight. You were warned! =============================================================================== Message 188 DATE/TIME: 05/05/93 11:02 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : MARK MANSFIELD Subject: (R) Notes Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Mark! As to the current and potential (difference between), a single coil of wire NOT wound in bifilar MUST project a magnetic field, while in a bifilar geometry, the current cancels, leaving ONLY an electric/Hooper/potential/motional field. And I agree absolutely with what you said about Sweet not having lots of high tech equipment to work with...Keely also made a statement which I think was incredibly stupid or presumptious, that is that it would take "an infinite mind" to comprehend even the lower orderings of how frequencies could produce modes of force or action...I think this was a bit out of touch with reality...anyway, who are either of us or anyone else to say such since WE have not built a working model...guess the qualification is NOT in the education, equipment, etc...but in the simple fact DO YOU HAVE A WORKING MODEL?? In my case, I am sad to say NOT YET...but NEVER SAY DIE!!!....>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 190 DATE/TIME: 05/05/93 21:10 From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: (R) Bearden's Latest Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Jerry, Yes, let us know what you hear from Bearden, as my source seems to have disappeared from the face of the Earth! But he does that periodically.. not to worry. Bob =============================================================================== Message 192 DATE/TIME: 05/06/93 13:27 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : BOB ALDRICH Subject: (R) Bearden's Latest Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Bob! Ok, as always, I will post whatever he has to say that might be of use....I talked with JOE NEWMAN out in Mississippi and he says the public demonstration they did on March 28th in Washington was videotaped and he sells it for $20.....the address is in the CONTACT1 file...if you want a copy...his book is being republished with about 300 more pages and will also soon be available for $59.95...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 193 DATE/TIME: 05/06/93 13:28 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : LARRY BLUE Subject: (R) Comment Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Blue! Ok, will send you a "flyer" on the meeting and place you on future mailing lists...good to hear you ain't dead or otherwise taken prisoner....talked to Ron and he says let's plan a lunch date...you name the time and place (11:00 AM where and when???)....>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 196 DATE/TIME: 05/07/93 09:35 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : ROBERT BONNER Subject: (R) Einstin's Unified Field Theory Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Robert! Yes, I read the book and the man claims he has some type of technology that creates an anti-grav effect, but he gives little in the book that would lead one to be able to build a working device....if I recall correctly, he also claims he can reconfigure to create an F/E device....you know he wrote a book in the 50's and this one is simply an update, some wild claims in it.....see ya...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 197 DATE/TIME: 05/07/93 09:36 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- To : JERRY BAYSDORFER Subject: (R) Comment Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Jerry! Yes, several people are interested in the Bearden paper but I think the hot thing right now is the ADAMS machine from New Zealand/Australia....I have some papers on it which I will do my damndest to get online with diagrams...and of course, Sweet seems to have eclipsed everyones interest also...some are working on that too including myself...anyway, everyone does what they can and many are sharing their findings....you might leave a note to ROD FREDLUND and MARK MANSFIELD...they will clue you into their ideas on the subject...>>> Jerry =============================================================================== Message 198 DATE/TIME: 05/07/93 10:51 From : FRIEDRICH BADER To : ALL Subject: Construction of a Mercury-laser Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hello poeples out there in the USA, I'm calling from Germany, apparently the less well informed country in the world concerning scientific stuff. I got involved in the development of a low-cost high-power laser for the production of fulerenes (C60) in amounts of 100 - 200 grs. per day. Does anybody know some literature about Hg-steam lasers? For any substantial help on developing the laser I'd offer first a trip to Germany to meet and ifyou're to germany for this summer and if your mind is able to catalize the termination of the development to fall this year a partizipation on this project and others (not less interresting)!) !!!!! If you've gotsome message for me just leave it in this box or call me at the number 37 75 86 in Karlsruhe germany area code for Karlsruhe is 721 Hope to get a bunch of messages! Friedrich =============================================================================== Message 199 DATE/TIME: 05/07/93 17:06 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To : ALL Subject: PostScript view/print program Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Folks! Don't really know who to address this to but I need a VERY TINY FAVOR! KeelyNet was sent what appears to be a most excellent file with 4 pictures, all supposedly written by Sweet himself! However, they are in the Postscript format (ext is .PS) and I have nothing that will read or print those files... So please scrounge around your computer and see if you have a PD version or SOMETHING that will write to a laser or 24 pin dot matrix or translate to a WORD PERFECT type format...from there I can use the laser at work (Panasonic KXP4450) to print it up... The files really need to be online as from what I can read they look quite good.... If no one has anything, I guess I can run the boards this weekend in search of such a program.. Really, if it would just translate to Word Perfect, I could print it out and or redo the picture files...whatever will allow it to come online here in a more "populist" format.... Thanks for your assistance...>>> Jerry ===============================================================================